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How to Dyno for *FREE !!

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  • Fri, Sep 27 2002 5:33 PM How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Foxy
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    You'll need vag-com and MS Excel to do this, but that's about it!!



    That's a second gear pull. Find a straight, flat road with no traffic. In a TDI, log Groups 005 and 006 simultaneously as you do a full throttle run from idle to redline in 3rd or 4th gear. At redline, push in the clutch and allow the car to coast as far as possible.

    Get a download of the automatic calculation spreadsheet here:
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dgace/images/data_stuff/tdi-dyno.xls

    If you do get some results, please post them under this thread.
    I'm gonna have a go over the weekend myself!

    All credit to the author

    Updated with data from my ISP server

    FOXY

    Edited by - foxy on 03 Oct 2002 18:58:43
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  • Thu, Oct 3 2002 10:11 AM How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    shakini
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    WOW! Does this really work?

    Cool! Anyone have any idea which datablock thats needed for a Throttle cable 2000 1.8T? I think the one which measures speed against RPM is Datablock 6, but its only 1 datablock that can be used! Me will definitely try this out! Looks cool if it works!




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  • Sat, Oct 5 2002 10:49 AM How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    marriedblonde
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    Bobs drop us and email and I'll send you a complete list of the the data blocks.

    Not married, not blonde!

    Now married, now a bottle blonde - still a poor taste in usernames though...
  • Thu, Nov 1 2007 7:01 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Roger Irrelevant
    Golf IV TDI 1.9 AGR 90PS
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    Impressive...

    My suggestion would be to do multiple runs, keeping as many things constant as possible... speeds, bit of road you're on... occupants in the car etc. do several plots and average em out... then average out the logged data values themselves & do another plot for comparison.

    I'm not an expert, but there are a good few areas in the above process where inaccuracy & error could be introduced. It's unavoidable unfortunately. The only thing you can do is try to minimise their effect with repetition.

    Of course, if you just want a whizzy graph, then one run is fine... that's all I'll be doing! Smile

     

  • Thu, Nov 1 2007 7:06 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Roger Irrelevant
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    knackers... sorry guys... I bananafingered to this post thinking it was a new one & replied before realising... I'm sure it'll soon sink back to the obscurity of page 2048 or whatever.

    canny one for a bump though i guess, given the VAG-COM group buy :)

  • Sun, Nov 11 2007 3:11 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    jaybv6
    Golf IV GTI 1.9 ARL 150PS
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    Top bump as I've spent ages researching the blocks to log for a dyno run in my TDi.
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  • Wed, Jan 9 2008 2:57 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    ollie2007uk
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    marriedblonde:


    Bobs drop us and email and I'll send you a complete list of the the data blocks.

    Not married, not blonde!

     

    Bit of a long shot but dont supose you've got that list still do you?

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  • Fri, Feb 1 2008 6:40 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    ballcrusher
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    just to let every one no it dont work on mapped cars
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  • Tue, Feb 19 2008 1:16 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Sean_Jaymo
    Golf IV GTTDI 1.9 AJM 115PS
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    Why?


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  • Tue, Feb 19 2008 1:21 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    andymac
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    Yes it does as its only doing a calculation relative to speed time and mass and deceleration..
  • Tue, Feb 19 2008 1:23 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Sean_Jaymo
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    That is what I am thinking!


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  • Tue, Feb 19 2008 1:36 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    nosaj
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    intresting thread Yes
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  • Tue, Feb 19 2008 4:21 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    M7R
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    I thought you were supost to do this in 3rd on tdis as thats what vagcom and vw say to use to check boost levels etc. or ay i being blonde?
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  • Sat, Feb 23 2008 2:33 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Woodinator
    Bora SE TDI 1.9 ASZ 130PS
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    Nice bump! Graph saved and will give this a go sometime Yes

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  • Fri, Mar 21 2008 10:28 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    RobinA3
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    what measuring blocks do you need to log to do this?

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  • Sat, Apr 12 2008 7:43 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    skierandy
    Golf IV R32 3.2 240PS
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    any chance of getting the graphs back up at the top of this thread?

    also is this the page i need..... http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/tour/logging.html

     

    thanks

    Andy




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  • Tue, May 6 2008 3:07 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    rob_arthur
    Golf IV GTTDI 1.9 AJM 115PS
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     does this work at all? i did the logs tonight using measuring blocks 5 and 6 for my tdi. so i have the logs saved. but the link foxy gives in the first post for the automatic calculation thing doesnt work. the link doesnt exist anymore.

    so does this work at all? as i would like to try and work out the readings i have.

    thanks rob

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  • Tue, May 6 2008 4:03 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Golfin
    Golf IV 1.4 16v AKL 75PS
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    rob_arthur:

    so does this work at all? as i would like to try and work out the readings i have.

    thanks rob

     

    Same!

  • Wed, May 7 2008 12:54 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    rob_arthur
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     anyone, surely someone on here knows if this works and if not how to do it.

    would be a great help. i have searched the forum but come to no answer.

    thanks rob

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  • Thu, May 8 2008 5:35 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Roger Irrelevant
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     OK... I have a copy of the graph spreadsheet... i don't wanna post or link it because ultimately it's not mine & the link may have been removed for a reason.

    PM me an email addy...

    I'm interested in knowing exactly what to do in VagCOM to log the numbers necessary to use it properly. I've got VC & the cable and stuff but have never used it. If anyone can help me with clear instructions on the VagCom part, I'll help them with a copy of the spreadsheet.

    Fair do's?

  • Thu, May 8 2008 12:07 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    rob_arthur
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     hi there pm sent.

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  • Thu, May 15 2008 5:01 AM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    skierandy
    Golf IV R32 3.2 240PS
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     my mate just sent me this link,  could be just what we are all looking for.

    may spend a day on it next month Yes

    http://72.232.196.98/~dpham00/gti/vagcom/Vag-com%20Logging%20and%20Graphing.pdf

     

     

     

    Has anyone tried this yet?




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  • Thu, May 15 2008 12:57 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    Golfin
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     Looks good skier andy.. however the table provided shoes boost at Rpm not BHP.. although doing that looks fun too im sure with some play and manipulation in Excel i should be able to work out bhp using some different variables!

  • Thu, May 15 2008 2:15 PM Re: How to Dyno for *FREE !!

    skierandy
    Golf IV R32 3.2 240PS