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Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

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  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 4:19 AM Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    paulwakinshaw
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    Does anyone know if there are any tuning boxes available for this car/engine yet?

     TIA - Paul

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  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 4:35 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    damianmkv
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    Current car - crap mk5 & 2008 A4 avant s-line
    Previous car - crap mk4 1.8T
    Prior to that - 2xmk2s, a mk1, a Beetle

    Getting a bit samey, ain't it ?
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 5:06 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    paulwakinshaw
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    cheers

     is there a uk based website - only got a free phone number from that site?

     Also - anyone fitted one to their Golf GT 170 yet?

  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 5:43 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    damianmkv
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    i can't see one, no

    Not sure, most people go for a remap rather than a tuning box



    Current car - crap mk5 & 2008 A4 avant s-line
    Previous car - crap mk4 1.8T
    Prior to that - 2xmk2s, a mk1, a Beetle

    Getting a bit samey, ain't it ?
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 6:51 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    djhorace
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    From what I understand there is one, possibly 2 things in the 170 TDi engine that make power increases and remaps a bad thing. Keith (B44FY) was going to be coming on here today to ask about tuning MK5 GT 170 TDi Golfs as he is having no luck in finding anywhere that will map them, and that it because of these 1 or 2 weak parts.
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 6:57 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    damianmkv
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    is that why Superchips have temporarily removed it from their site ?


    Current car - crap mk5 & 2008 A4 avant s-line
    Previous car - crap mk4 1.8T
    Prior to that - 2xmk2s, a mk1, a Beetle

    Getting a bit samey, ain't it ?
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 7:02 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    damianmkv
    Golf V GT TDI 2.0 140PS
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    how about www.norchip.co.uk then go to ECU remapping, select make and model hit submit

    £350 gives 200bhp and 410nm

    Although i've never heard of this company and the gains aren't that big...



    Current car - crap mk5 & 2008 A4 avant s-line
    Previous car - crap mk4 1.8T
    Prior to that - 2xmk2s, a mk1, a Beetle

    Getting a bit samey, ain't it ?
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 7:05 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    Beddie
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    The main problem with tuning the 170PD is the DPF (diesel particulate filter) apparently...

    I remember reading a thread over on seat-cupra.net where a remapped 170 had given fantastic gains and went like a rocket (around 220BHP iirc!!!) and the owner was understandably over the moon with the performance, until the DPF became blocked due to the extra 'soot' caused by the extra fuel burn of the remap and caught fire...... Surprise


    Das ist mein auto...


  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 7:13 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    damianmkv
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    ah, I can see that that would wipe the smile off your face pretty smart-ish


    Current car - crap mk5 & 2008 A4 avant s-line
    Previous car - crap mk4 1.8T
    Prior to that - 2xmk2s, a mk1, a Beetle

    Getting a bit samey, ain't it ?
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 7:17 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    damianmkv
    Golf V GT TDI 2.0 140PS
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    can see it now......woooooooooooooo-hooooo......yeaaahhhhhhhh...(sniff )....weeeeeee (sniff )..err...do you smell burning ?Confused....WTF ???Indifferent (screeeeeeech )

    opens door and runs......



    Current car - crap mk5 & 2008 A4 avant s-line
    Previous car - crap mk4 1.8T
    Prior to that - 2xmk2s, a mk1, a Beetle

    Getting a bit samey, ain't it ?
  • Wed, Feb 14 2007 7:43 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    Beddie
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    Yeah! suppose it brings a whole new meaning to 'My car goes like a rocket now it's been chipped'.... first a few sparks, then some flames...... Indifferent

    Das ist mein auto...


  • Wed, Feb 21 2007 5:17 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    hobbsy
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    Can you not just remove the DPF and away you go? :)  Much like the w@nky old carbon canister on my old 200SX - hey its only there for emissions and costs you performance so away you go! :)
  • Sat, Mar 10 2007 12:00 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    norchip.co.uk
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    damianmkv:

    how about www.norchip.co.uk then go to ECU remapping, select make and model hit submit

    £350 gives 200bhp and 410nm

    Although i've never heard of this company and the gains aren't that big...

    All the power figures on my website are for normal safe maps. A PD 130 golf can make 200bhp :-).  These cars can make much more than 200bhp but as said the DPF is the problem. So you need to remap with no smoke.

     Removing the Filter would be the way to go, but I am sure it will cause the CEL to come on. I have not looked at this car in depth yet but I think the Filter works on DP ( differential pressure ) so I am sure there would be a way round it if you did remove the filter.

     

    Hope that helps

  • Sun, Apr 8 2007 10:49 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    B44FY
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    still looking, Superchips 170 caught fire, a guy in Greece mapped his went ok then req new ecu & egr, but some(2 i can think off) have used rica tuning of bromsgrove to limited affect, http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=118906

    only the TDi 170's seeem to have the dpf fitted, removing is an issue as its wired to the ecu.VAG group will be running with this engine as thier preffered TDi engine i believe, nightmare for people wanting to mod them.

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  • Mon, Apr 9 2007 7:26 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    BeezerDiesel
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    B44FY:

    VAG group will be running with this engine as thier preffered TDi engine i believe, nightmare for people wanting to mod them.

     

    Probably one of the main reasons VAG pefer it!!!

    I expect they are fed up with warranty claims on modded motors LOL!

    Andy

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    91 Polo GT



  • Tue, Apr 10 2007 4:08 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    djhorace
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    Just noticed Star list the 170 now

    Leon 1.9TDI 90 115 YES   NO £449.00  
    1.9TDI 110 140 YES   NO £449.00  
    1.9TDI PD 130 175 YES   YES £449.00 £549.00
    1.9TDI PD 150 180 YES   YES £449.00 £549.00
    1.9TDI PD 105 140 YES   YES £525.00  
    2.0TDI PD 140 185 YES   YES £525.00  
    2.0TDI PD 170 200 YES   YES £525.00

  • Wed, Apr 11 2007 4:29 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    B44FY
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    spoke to him last week said nothing yet...................where's ma phone!
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  • Fri, Apr 13 2007 11:33 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    B44FY
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    Spoke to Jim today no map as of yet for the deisel MK5 170 or the Leon 170, but they did map a 170 VW Passat.

    Hopefully wont be long now.

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  • Fri, Jan 25 2008 3:17 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    bigburd
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    Got a TD 170 A3 on order - mainly because of the inability to remap safely, to stop me spending (although am keeping the R32 for a bit longer after A3 arrives) then may consider the new A4 Avant 3.0TDI in a year or so
  • Fri, Jan 25 2008 6:30 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    shep
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    Milltek now do a DPF replacement/performance pipe. When I last spoke to them at Castle Combe last autumn they were only going to supply it to a few tuners as a package with a matched remap, producing around the 220bhp mark.

    Custom code also remap the 170 tdi.

  • Fri, Jan 25 2008 10:16 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    cctuning
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    I drive a Leon 170 FR and I mapped it at 3k it has now done 5k and have had no problems.

    It has been remaped an extra 35bhp and 65nm

  • Sat, Jan 26 2008 3:15 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    ChippedUK Advertiser - Role Icon mapping
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    Mapping these cars is no problem whatsover.

    The issue is that the "usual" method of tuning doesnt apply in the same way, we have to mae power in a different way which of course doesnt give as much as the conventional method hence power at around 200-205hp and +60-70Nm torque but the gains do make for a much more "pokey" drive.


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  • Wed, Feb 6 2008 3:05 PM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)

    bigburd
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    www.superchips.co.uk now offer this option
  • Wed, Feb 27 2008 11:23 AM Re: Tuning for a GTTDI - Mk 5 (170 BHP model)