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Last post 28/06/2008 8:50 AM by Seven. 20 replies.
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  • 15/06/2008 8:58 AM Bluefin

    asy
    Golf V GT TDI 2.0 140PS
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    Hi i'm itching to get bluefin for my new car (used it before) but i want to know how many miles to put on it before i get it done,at the mo it's on 3200K and still feels a bit tight..Any opinions thanks in advance...Smile

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  • 16/06/2008 1:34 AM Re: Bluefin

    daz749s
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    I know this is slightly diverting from what you asked but why not try ChippedUK's new ST-3 unit? Much better than bluefin. Not sure how many miles you should put on your car but I would probably get whatever unit you buy on asap so the clutch and all other parts can wear in at the same time.

  • 16/06/2008 2:39 AM Re: Bluefin

    andyfa
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    Ditto Above - Chipped UK is way better value, and having tried both, I can recommend their Fast Road and Economy maps. Both are very smooth and I'd stick them on ASAP as they won't over stress a new car. Order, e-mail your original, get the 2 new maps, plug into your car - upload new map and away you go. There should still be a forum discount too.

  • 16/06/2008 7:02 AM Re: Bluefin

    asy
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    Yeh but i need to revert back to stock at the drop of a hat for warranty,service work ect so the dealer does,nt pick it up....

  • 16/06/2008 7:42 AM Re: Bluefin

    AidenUK
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    The ST3 lets you revery back to standard i think.. Have a look on the ChippedUK website Asy.

    Yes

  • 16/06/2008 8:42 AM Re: Bluefin

    andyfa
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     Yep... not a problem, on the ST3 swap between stock and any of the other 2 maps at any time in a bout 3 minutes. Also some people say the flash counter is incremented, but thats not true either, it resets the counter.

    Plus if you change to another supported Chipped UK car, you can take it with you and buy a new map for £100 for your new car.

    Gosh I sound like a Chipped UK Salesman Big Smile

  • 16/06/2008 1:31 PM Re: Bluefin

    asy
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     Hmmm i'll check it out after work thanx 4 the advice...Smile

  • 16/06/2008 2:07 PM Re: Bluefin

    asy
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     Just been to the web site n couple of questions

    1.Can i go to the HQ and have the car RR to see what it's putting out before n after and to check for excesive black smoke..??

    2.How much do u think this will cost..PS i'm interested in the fast road and economy maps....??

  • 16/06/2008 2:31 PM Re: Bluefin

    andyfa
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     They have their own forum on here

    http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/151.aspx

    They can answer the questions for you.

  • 16/06/2008 3:45 PM Re: Bluefin

    daz749s
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    Hi there, Just give Jayson or Simon a call it's real easy. They have top Dyno there and yes they will show you how it works and you can switch back and forth as you like, which is good when the missus wants to drive the car!

     

  • 16/06/2008 5:32 PM Re: Bluefin

    asy
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    Andyfa..How much did your ST3 unit cost you in total....?? (if you dont mind me asking)..

  • 17/06/2008 2:16 AM Re: Bluefin

    andyfa
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    asy:

    Andyfa..How much did your ST3 unit cost you in total....?? (if you dont mind me asking)..

    PM Sent

  • 17/06/2008 4:52 AM Re: Bluefin

    asy
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    Thanks..

  • 20/06/2008 6:05 AM Re: Bluefin

    mrx
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    andyfa:

     Yep... not a problem, on the ST3 swap between stock and any of the other 2 maps at any time in a bout 3 minutes. Also some people say the flash counter is incremented, but thats not true either, it resets the counter.

     

    "Some people" would be me. 

    Before I go on, I would whole-heartedly recommend the ST3 to anyone considering a reflash - I think it is great, particularly price-wise.  I have the Bluefin unit on a Mk V Golf GTI & the ST3 fast road map on a Skoda Octavia vRS (ie. same engine as the golf).  Both are good, but I actually prefer the ST3 map over the Bluefin.  The main reason is that the ST3 is very, very smooth to the point where you don't realise you're going fast until you look at the speedo.  The ST3 also seems to get to the redline without running out of puff.  The Bluefin has a real surge around 3000rpm and then dies off higher in the rev range.  Also, I like the throttle response of the ST3 fast road map better.  With the Bluefin it's almost like the bottom third of accelerator pedal travel does nothing, with the ST3 it's just like driving with a standard car if you don't push too hard, but when you want it to go nuts you floor the throttle and it takes off like a rocket!

    Now to the flash counter.  I have vagcom and have verified on my own car, and two others with the ST3 reflash, that the counter has increased.  All different engines too, one 200 petrol, one 140 diesel & one 170 diesel.  So far I am lead to believe that the Australian cars being coded slightly differently is the reason for this.  Whether or not this actually affects UK cars as well remains to be seen, as I have not seen any UK vagcom owner mention anything about it.  I believe Chipped UK may be working on a solution, from what I've heard third hand, but since my emails have never been replied to I can't be sure?

     

  • 20/06/2008 7:05 AM Re: Bluefin

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    The st3 is having a slight alteration done in the software to stop the increase in counter, this has not effected any of the uk cars we have tested but in Australia we have had this issue.

    We will also soon be launching a reverse of counter flash to knock the counter back to what it was on a certain date.

    There is one small issue we cant get round at the moment as we dont have an Australian ecu here so I am flying to Brisbane next month just to work round this issue.

    I hope this will show our clients how far we will go to fix ANY issue with our products, customer service is our #1 priority.

  • 20/06/2008 7:41 AM Re: Bluefin

    mrx
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    Thank you for the response, I look forward to a successful outcome, as I truely believe you have a great product.

     

  • 20/06/2008 12:50 PM Re: Bluefin

    andyfa
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    ChippedUK:

    The st3 is having a slight alteration done in the software to stop the increase in counter, this has not effected any of the uk cars we have tested but in Australia we have had this issue.

    We will also soon be launching a reverse of counter flash to knock the counter back to what it was on a certain date.

    There is one small issue we cant get round at the moment as we dont have an Australian ecu here so I am flying to Brisbane next month just to work round this issue.

    I hope this will show our clients how far we will go to fix ANY issue with our products, customer service is our #1 priority.

    Will you be notifying us customers when this is available as I was under the impresion it didn't incrment the counter - I've flashed mine about 8 times now!! Will there be a free update available to correct this?

  • 20/06/2008 5:14 PM Re: Bluefin

    Roobuls
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    I think it's only people in Australia that are having this problem. It seems that the ECU's have something different on the cars that go there.

    Hi ChippedUK.

    Could it be possible to have the ST3's ECU info screen inform you of the re-flash counter value?
    That way you would easily know if your dealer ever upgraded your ECU software as part of a warranty maintenance thing.

  • 20/06/2008 7:03 PM Re: Bluefin

    richard_
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    I have seen the same thing as MRX on my uk Car that the flash count is going up with each flash.

    But i am sure jason will work out what is needed and get it fixed.

  • 28/06/2008 6:32 AM Re: Bluefin

    Vic20
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     I ordered the ST3 for my 2005 Audi A3 2.0 TDI on Monday, unit arrived Tuesday. Initial results are very impressive, I will report later on this as my main reason for doing it is to improve economy..

    However, VAGCOM confirms that the ECU program counter HAS been incremented and the date of the reprograms (I tried both maps) has been recorded. I'm not in Australia but unfortunately in the UK!

    I have contacted ChippedUK who gave a quick response that I'm the first in the UK with this issue and they should have a mod out in the next 2 weeks to resolve this...

     

    Vic

  • 28/06/2008 8:50 AM Re: Bluefin

    Seven
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    Roobuls:

     

    I think it's only people in Australia that are having this problem. It seems that the ECU's have something different on the cars that go there.

    Hi ChippedUK.

    Could it be possible to have the ST3's ECU info screen inform you of the re-flash counter value?
    That way you would easily know if your dealer ever upgraded your ECU software as part of a warranty maintenance thing.

    Wrong, not only Aussie GTI's are counting the flashes, I have a ST3 in Hong Kong and the ECU flash counter is going up on mine also, I understand UK GTI's are made in Golfsburg. Asia Pacific 5Door Golfs come from South Africa and the 3 doors come from Germany.

    Don't know if it's the SA / D difference in ECU's?

    Hope Simon and Jayson can get something sorted.

    Cheers

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