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Limit on the DSG box

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  • Wed, Mar 25 2009 7:23 PM Limit on the DSG box

    R23
    Golf IV V5 2.3 20v 170PS
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     What is the tuning limit with the TDi using the DSG box?

    Presumably I can safely get my 140 up to the factory 170 and associated torque as they did a 170dsg.

    Beyond that, with a de-cat'd turbo back exhaust and panel filter the power gains won't be that great to be outside any tolerances would they? The remaps don't seem to offer too much over the 170's until you go for a hybrid turbo Idea

    Mk4 2.3 V5 20V
    Coilovers
    R32 DSG intake
    S3 strut brace / RSi lower brace
    DNA re-map
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  • Wed, Mar 25 2009 7:38 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    fonefingz
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    well speaking for my self, my car is running 200+ bhp and the dsg box is fine!

    about the hybrid turbo? go for it!!

  • Wed, Mar 25 2009 7:56 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    R23
    Golf IV V5 2.3 20v 170PS
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     Wot u do to get over 200? Was yours the 170 to start with?

    Mk4 2.3 V5 20V
    Coilovers
    R32 DSG intake
    S3 strut brace / RSi lower brace
    DNA re-map
  • Wed, Mar 25 2009 8:11 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    Anakin
    Golf V R32 3.2 250PS DSG
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    Ive seen a R32 tunerwebsite saying that the DSG box is fine with 425 BHP and 400NM of torques.

    The guys at awsome were running 350 bhp + on there MKV (not sure how much torque) with standard DSG box too.

    I'm Sure it will take the extra 30bhp and torques

    you can get uprated DSG clutches but they ain't cheap....

    http://www.vr6specialist.nl/tuning/?t=en&p=tun11&id=1161875551&filter=F123456789&open=1161897631

    (P.S. not paying for it if it breaks though :P)

     

    2008 .:R32 DSG Leather 3 Door, Alu Tax Disc Holder, Wolfsburg Number plates Surounds and Metal Pates.
  • Thu, Mar 26 2009 5:32 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    R23
    Golf IV V5 2.3 20v 170PS
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     Thats assumin that the R32 is the same as the TDi ie no strengthening or anything.

    Mk4 2.3 V5 20V
    Coilovers
    R32 DSG intake
    S3 strut brace / RSi lower brace
    DNA re-map
  • Thu, Mar 26 2009 5:58 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    richwig83
    Golf V Sport 1.9 TDI 105PS
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    Are there any proven gains for this mod?



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  • Thu, Mar 26 2009 6:14 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    Anakin
    Golf V R32 3.2 250PS DSG
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    R23:

     Thats assumin that the R32 is the same as the TDi ie no strengthening or anything.

     

    yeah you have a point there,

    im sure the people who map them, ie Awesome APR , jabbasport , CC etc will be able to advise you. im prety sure just a standard map isnt going to stress it too much more

    2008 .:R32 DSG Leather 3 Door, Alu Tax Disc Holder, Wolfsburg Number plates Surounds and Metal Pates.
  • Thu, Mar 26 2009 6:32 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    tempest
    Golf V R32 3.2 250PS DSG
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     sorry to jump in but what are the dsg like ?

    i have been looking at mkv r32 with dsg or should i get the normal one

    do they have any problems with dsg

    Thanks

    Paul


  • Fri, Mar 27 2009 2:49 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    Anakin
    Golf V R32 3.2 250PS DSG
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    Id say its a Marmite thing...

    best to go test drive both and see how you feel.

    I love it, its faster and more econmical than a manual, even Clarkson said he liked it...

    2008 .:R32 DSG Leather 3 Door, Alu Tax Disc Holder, Wolfsburg Number plates Surounds and Metal Pates.
  • Fri, Mar 27 2009 5:58 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    R23
    Golf IV V5 2.3 20v 170PS
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    Can only comment on the tdi application - its a very good auto. Instant changes without the slurring that you usually get on a single clutch autobox. 6speed means long cruising gears.

    As above - you really need to drive them both. THe purists will probably want the control of the manual - depends if you want your r32 to be a cross-continent GT or a rip-roaring racer.

    The point and squirt aspect of auto boxes is addictive though Cool

    Mk4 2.3 V5 20V
    Coilovers
    R32 DSG intake
    S3 strut brace / RSi lower brace
    DNA re-map
  • Sat, Mar 28 2009 2:38 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    tempest
    Golf V R32 3.2 250PS DSG
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     Thanks for the reply guys

    well i took the r32 out with  dsg and i liked it so much i got it

    never got around to test a manual.

    pick it up tuesday,cant wait.

    Thanks guys

    Paul

     


  • Sat, Mar 28 2009 4:17 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    R23
    Golf IV V5 2.3 20v 170PS
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     Cool

    Mk4 2.3 V5 20V
    Coilovers
    R32 DSG intake
    S3 strut brace / RSi lower brace
    DNA re-map
  • Mon, Apr 13 2009 2:15 AM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    daverogers2001
    Golf V GTI Edition 30 2.0 230PS DSG
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     I have an Edition 30 DSG running 315bhp and 415 ft lb torque. No probs here

     

    Audi S3 2.0 TFSI S-Tronic 2010
    with silly LED headlights that won't turn off eeeerrgghhh
  • Mon, Apr 13 2009 3:07 AM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    richwig83
    Golf V Sport 1.9 TDI 105PS
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    richwig83:

    Are there any proven gains for this mod?

    Just realised im talkin poo poo... thought you were on about the r32 airbox!

    Embarrassed



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  • Mon, Apr 13 2009 10:29 AM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    SO8
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    daverogers2001:

     I have an Edition 30 DSG running 315bhp and 415 ft lb torque. No probs here

     

    Apart from traction Big Smile

    Ed 30 DSG 3 dr Diamond Black
  • Wed, Apr 15 2009 9:22 AM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    daverogers2001
    Golf V GTI Edition 30 2.0 230PS DSG
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    SO8:

    daverogers2001:

     I have an Edition 30 DSG running 315bhp and 415 ft lb torque. No probs here

     

    Apart from traction Big Smile

    Traction, Smaction, it's ok now it's dry Whistle

    Audi S3 2.0 TFSI S-Tronic 2010
    with silly LED headlights that won't turn off eeeerrgghhh
  • Wed, Apr 15 2009 11:10 AM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    Hurdy
    Golf V GTI Edition 30 2.0 230PS DSG
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    daverogers2001:

     I have an Edition 30 DSG running 315bhp and 415 ft lb torque. No probs here

     

     

     

    FOOK me!Surprise

    I thought I was pushing it with 324bhp and 382lbft!!

  • Wed, Jun 17 2009 2:27 PM Re: Limit on the DSG box

    -adam-
    Golf V GTI 2.0 200PS DSG
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    Good to know that it can take extra ponys

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