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  • Thu, Feb 10 2005 3:30 PM Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    ct.p
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    Further to the plea for help regarding my little clutch problem, I've fixed it and here is

    the how-to.

    Note:- This How-to would be of benefit if you ever need to remove your clutch master

    cylinder, as during my forum(s) search I noticed that a master cylinder failure is quite

    common. Apart from the hydraulic side of the operation, most of the work is in the drivers

    footwell and would be as follows. The master cylinder retaining nuts look like they are

    accessed from the footwell side.

    Anyway, my problem was that I was driving home, Wifey & Kids in the car.... went to change

    gear, pushed the clutch pedal in and "BANG".... No clutch.



    The above piccy shows what went bang (I used this piccy in my initial cry for help so please ignor the bit that asks if there's another clip).



    The above piccy shows the broken pedal insitu prior to me removing it. Note:- The white clip

    I refer to was never found..... it probably went boing and could be currently anywhere in the

    footwell area... no doubt resting somewhere where it'll either rattle or cause some other

    horrid problem.

    To remove pedal (assumes you know a bit about 'cars' and how they work etc..... even so, this

    IS NOT A NICE JOB.... A real fiddle):-

    1, Remove lower trim from footwell area.

    2, Release over centre spring. I used a long screwdriver and pushed on the white nylon end

    piece until the spring popped out. There are some handy little recesses on the white bit that

    will prevent your screwdriver slipping off.

    3, Undo and remove the pivot nut and then wriggle out the bolt. (note I say wriggle as it

    hits the steering column on it's way out.... it's fiddly but it does come out. Further Note

    :- I fitted the bolt from the other side to avoid this problem on re-assembly).

    4, If your master cylinder pushrod is still in position, you will now have to release it. The

    ball is held in place by a white nylon holder..... press in the tags to release it. (see

    piccy)



    Above piccy shows my 'repaired' pedal and the location of the 'tags' that you need to press

    in to release the master cylinder pushrod.



    The above piccy shows how things are laid out in the car.

    Refitting........

    5, Fit new pushrod ball carrier to pushrod (65p from VW !!) I fiddled and swore for a while

    but eventually managed to fit it with needle-nosed pliers. It will 'click' in place and will

    NOT come off again if you've done it right.

    6, Struggle to put pedal back in car.....Engauge pushrod / carrier into box section on pedal

    first before you put the pivot bolt back in (remember bolt from the other side....)

    7, .......Now the tricky part, the over centre spring. Can't explain it to well in text but

    look at the piccies below. Where it fits you'll know from when you took it out. This is the

    toughest part of the whole procedure, it took me ages. (If you do use the cable tie method,

    remember to cut them to release the spring AND BE CAREFUL !





    JOB DONE !!!

    I got.....

    Frustrated
    'Sore' fingers
    Carpet burns on my elbows...... Ooo-err (you'll understand if you have to do this)

    Hope this helps if you ever need it.
    Good luck
    A6 Avant
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  • Thu, Nov 30 2006 12:04 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Jatie 150
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    Help ..... help .....   same has happend to our motor ....

     

    Pics what happend to them above ?

    Pearl magic, THE DE-LOCK MOD & more to come so watch this space !!!!!!!!!!
  • Thu, Nov 30 2006 1:13 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    ct.p
    • Joined on Fri, Jun 18 2004
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    Have a look in my members picture gallery for the pics.
    A6 Avant
  • Thu, Nov 30 2006 1:29 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Jatie 150
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    Found them thanks Yes
    Pearl magic, THE DE-LOCK MOD & more to come so watch this space !!!!!!!!!!
  • Sun, Sep 23 2007 10:41 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    vwdaz
    Mk4 Models
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    members pic gallery i cant find the pics matey, need to know how to fit the new clips!
    Coming soon...................................

  • Sun, Sep 23 2007 1:14 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    old_n07
    Golf IV GTTDI 1.9 ASZ 130PS
    • Joined on Fri, Feb 3 2006
    • Location: Stafford - ish
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    ct.p:
    Further to the plea for help regarding my little clutch problem, I've fixed it and here is

    the how-to.

    Note:- This How-to would be of benefit if you ever need to remove your clutch master

    cylinder, as during my forum(s) search I noticed that a master cylinder failure is quite

    common. Apart from the hydraulic side of the operation, most of the work is in the drivers

    footwell and would be as follows. The master cylinder retaining nuts look like they are

    accessed from the footwell side.

    Anyway, my problem was that I was driving home, Wifey & Kids in the car.... went to change

    gear, pushed the clutch pedal in and "BANG".... No clutch.



    The above piccy shows what went bang (I used this piccy in my initial cry for help so please ignor the bit that asks if there's another clip).

    The above piccy shows the broken pedal insitu prior to me removing it. Note:- The white clip

    I refer to was never found..... it probably went boing and could be currently anywhere in the

    footwell area... no doubt resting somewhere where it'll either rattle or cause some other

    horrid problem.

    To remove pedal (assumes you know a bit about 'cars' and how they work etc..... even so, this

    IS NOT A NICE JOB.... A real fiddle):-

    1, Remove lower trim from footwell area.

    2, Release over centre spring. I used a long screwdriver and pushed on the white nylon end

    piece until the spring popped out. There are some handy little recesses on the white bit that

    will prevent your screwdriver slipping off.

    3, Undo and remove the pivot nut and then wriggle out the bolt. (note I say wriggle as it

    hits the steering column on it's way out.... it's fiddly but it does come out. Further Note

    :- I fitted the bolt from the other side to avoid this problem on re-assembly).

    4, If your master cylinder pushrod is still in position, you will now have to release it. The

    ball is held in place by a white nylon holder..... press in the tags to release it. (see

    piccy)



    Above piccy shows my 'repaired' pedal and the location of the 'tags' that you need to press

    in to release the master cylinder pushrod.



    The above piccy shows how things are laid out in the car.

    Refitting........

    5, Fit new pushrod ball carrier to pushrod (65p from VW !!) I fiddled and swore for a while

    but eventually managed to fit it with needle-nosed pliers. It will 'click' in place and will

    NOT come off again if you've done it right.

    6, Struggle to put pedal back in car.....Engauge pushrod / carrier into box section on pedal

    first before you put the pivot bolt back in (remember bolt from the other side....)

    7, .......Now the tricky part, the over centre spring. Can't explain it to well in text but

    look at the piccies below. Where it fits you'll know from when you took it out. This is the

    toughest part of the whole procedure, it took me ages. (If you do use the cable tie method,

    remember to cut them to release the spring AND BE CAREFUL !

    JOB DONE !!!

    I got.....

    Frustrated
    'Sore' fingers
    Carpet burns on my elbows...... Ooo-err (you'll understand if you have to do this)

    Hope this helps if you ever need it.
    Good luck

    I've edited Colin's original post in this quote with what I hope are the correct photo's from his gallery. Colin has sold his golf so doesn't frequent here as much as he used to so I hope this helps you out Yes

    Neil

  • Mon, Sep 24 2007 2:00 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    vwdaz
    Mk4 Models
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    cheers fella those help a great deal, atleast i know where the bits go now, i think its only the black clip that has broken on mine, as there was no sign of any metal plate that had come off!! going to vw later to see if they stock the parts then gonna have a go at fitting them myself Tongue Tied
    Coming soon...................................

  • Mon, Sep 24 2007 2:11 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    old_n07
    Golf IV GTTDI 1.9 ASZ 130PS
    • Joined on Fri, Feb 3 2006
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    Here are the part diagrams, you know what you are asking for then Wink

    Neil

  • Tue, Sep 25 2007 1:12 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    vwdaz
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    cheers dude got the parts i needed, had a go at fitting them meself, got the old pedal off after alot of swearing and wiggling off that faaaaaaarking bolt, started putting it back together, putting the pedal back into place the pushrod only went n snapped. new master cylinder on order!!!! dont ya just hate cars somtimes Angry

     

    cheers for the advice tho, love this site for the pics n help!

    Coming soon...................................

  • Wed, Sep 26 2007 12:28 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Rob1.8T
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
    • Joined on Fri, Nov 24 2006
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    My clutch pedal broke last month. Was REALLY pi$$ed off thinking it was going to cost a fortune til I read this how-to the same night. Got the parts the next morning & job done - including free carpet burns on my elbows!! Yes

    Only thing now is that the pedal feels loose (side to side wobble) altho it's all gone back together properly & the bolt's been torqued to the correct setting.

    Anyone else found this??

    Cheers again for the info, fellas!!

  • Tue, Oct 23 2007 10:03 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Kev 4motion
    Golf IV V6 4motion 2.8 24v AUE 204PS
    • Joined on Sat, Dec 31 2005
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    Hi , i am just about to go and get a new pedal now ( Spare )  should i also get the plastic clips ?  What parts do i need as a back up ,  Just in case ?

                      Thanks.

  • Tue, Oct 23 2007 12:49 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Rob1.8T
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    I got:

    clutch pedal - 1J2721319C (£17.41 +VAT)
    stop - 1J2721332A (£1.54 +VAT)
    mounting - 1H0721357 (56p +VAT)

    That was pretty much everything to swap the pedal out after it failed. Total cost was just short of £23.00

  • Tue, Oct 23 2007 2:06 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Kev 4motion
    Golf IV V6 4motion 2.8 24v AUE 204PS
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    Thanks Rob ,

      I Got the clips too ,  is this pedal different to the ones in the previous pics (above) ?

     The end of the box section looks fairly strong to me , it is all in one piece , bent over and welded.  Not just tacked on the end.

    Do you think this is an upgrade , or are they all like this ?

     

     

     

     

  • Tue, Oct 23 2007 2:51 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Rob1.8T
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    Sorry for the delay, Kev.

    I bought exactly what you've got in the pic. The box on the new pedal is slightly different. On my old one the end of the box was a separate piece of metal tacked on. New style seems a lot sturdier.

    ct.p did a "how-to" for fitting it on here. Top post, loads of pictures & really easy to follow. He's right about watching-out for the carpet burns on the elbows, tho!!

  • Tue, Oct 23 2007 3:23 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Kev 4motion
    Golf IV V6 4motion 2.8 24v AUE 204PS
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    OK Rob ,     trouble is i am not sure which one i have got fitted at the mo , i could be OK or it could be just a matter of time , i just got one as spare , just in case !  Cheers ...Kev.

  • Tue, Oct 23 2007 4:02 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Rob1.8T
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    Depends on the year of your car, but I'd hazard a guess it's the older type.

    Where abouts in St Helens are you? Probably seen you but not realised.

  • Tue, Nov 27 2007 1:44 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    BAZ246
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    Mine did the same.Youll unfortunatly av to take it apart again cos theres to little spacers that sitS on the inside of the cylinder shape bit where you put the bolt thru.There about 20p each from VW.

  • Tue, Nov 27 2007 1:46 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    BAZ246
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    Number 8 in the dia gram on the page pal.That stop the peddle from moving side to side.
  • Tue, Dec 4 2007 8:30 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    nixy
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AGU 150PS
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    So how does the black plastic clip reattch i can't work it out lol

     

    Any got a pic of it all fitted in the car as it should be??

    coils slammed, porker rims, polybushed, mapped, carbonio forge dv, tints, bonnet bra, stubby mirrors plus few other bits

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  • Fri, Dec 7 2007 6:28 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Rob1.8T
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AUM 150PS
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    BAZ246:
    Number 8 in the dia gram on the page pal.That stop the peddle from moving side to side.

    Don't remember the old pedal having them on? Stripped i right down, too, to make sure I hadn't left anything off.

    Thanks for the head's-up tho. At least I know how to get it sorted. Now if I can only find the cause of the lake in the rear, passenger footwell....

  • Sat, Dec 8 2007 1:55 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    BAZ246
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    You wont av seen them i had the same problem to i had to take it all back apart wen i saw em there sat insid the cylinder shape bit dead snug there really hard to see.
  • Sat, Dec 8 2007 7:55 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Kev 4motion
    Golf IV V6 4motion 2.8 24v AUE 204PS
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  • Tue, Dec 25 2007 12:59 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    jeallen01
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    My pedal went about 3 months ago - with a BIG bang as they seem to - one Saturday morning.

     Local VW agent knew all about this (surprise, surprise!) and I got the parts within 2hrs - but then I had to fit them with only the help of the Haynes Manual - which was no help at all, and wrong in a number of places.

     Most of Old_n07 tips are good, but I would add a few more:

    a) Before starting, depressurise the hydraulic system by opening the slave cylinder bleed valve just a little (and then closing it after a little fluid has escaped!). This allows the pedal rod to move in and out much more easily - after which I was able to jiggle the spring (etc.) out with a screwdriver.

    b) Remove the clutch sensor switch which bayonets into the pedal box assembly, as it can impede the refitting of the new pedal ( but you can't see what the problem is !). With that out of the way, you can - with a lot of effort - force the pedal upwards and back into place as it slide up the inside of the pedal box assembly against the pressure of the spring.

     c) Smear a little thick grease or vaseline on the pedal pivot bushes to stop them falling out of the housing as you struggle to fit the new pedal.

     d) Then, of course, after everything is tight, bleed the clutch system and top up the combined brake and clutch master cylinder.

    I did'nt get carpet burns - but my back ached for two days, having been arched backwards over the door cill for around 2hrs (I'm NOT a small person, OR young!)

    John

     

  • Tue, Dec 25 2007 1:15 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    old_n07
    Golf IV GTTDI 1.9 ASZ 130PS
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    jeallen01:
     

     Most of Old_n07 tips are good, but I would add a few more:

    I'd love to take the credit for the guide but all the credit goes to Colin Yes, I just re-linked the pictures.

    Some good tips there John Yes I can see taking the pressure out of the system would help with the refit.

    Neil

  • Tue, Dec 25 2007 4:24 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    ct.p
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    old_n07:
    jeallen01:
     

     Most of Old_n07 tips are good, but I would add a few more:

    I'd love to take the credit for the guide but all the credit goes to Colin Yes, I just re-linked the pictures.

    Some good tips there John Yes I can see taking the pressure out of the system would help with the refit.

    Neil

    Credit to you Old No7 as well for keeping this going.

    Just realised this thread is getting on for nearly 3 years old !!

    I'm supprised there have not been more of these things fail. In fact I think they have except people just get them done and usually end up being duped into paying for a new master cylinder as well !

    A6 Avant
  • Tue, Dec 25 2007 4:47 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Dent Reform
    Golf IV V6 2motion 3.2 24v BHE supercharged
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    i think i will be doing this VERY soon as i am on 120K now and is the last OEM cock up left on the car and sods law says it is going to go

     

    I do have a spare in the garage so i might just chuck it in the car just in case Yes

     

    Andy 

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  • Mon, Jun 9 2008 3:12 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Carlos Moderator
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AGU 150PS
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    looks like i'll be doing this tomorrow. best go and order the parts Sad

     

  • Tue, Jun 10 2008 1:45 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    nixy
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     im doing today for a friend after doing mine a few months ago right pain in ass lol

    coils slammed, porker rims, polybushed, mapped, carbonio forge dv, tints, bonnet bra, stubby mirrors plus few other bits

    www.torque-steer.co.uk for all performance car enthuiasts!! Come join the movement lol
  • Tue, Jun 10 2008 2:13 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Carlos Moderator
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    I did it yesterday, the only thing I would like to add is that if you depress the pedal when putting the spring back in it made it much easier. I put the spring back in from above, cut the tie-wrap off with a stanley, then pulled it out with needle nose pliers.

     

  • Sun, Jun 15 2008 5:07 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    ct.p
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    Glad this is still being used.

    Very old thread and I'm still amazed there have not neen more of these failures !

     

    A6 Avant
  • Thu, Jun 19 2008 4:07 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    billsy
    Golf IV V6 4motion 2.8 24v BDE 204PS
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     For the record, the clutch on my V6 popped this evening (car has done 65k not impressed). It dropped a peice of steel onto the drivers side mat. I won't be doing the repair myself but I will be using this post to compare the bit of metal that came off to see what the garage should be charging me for. Thanks for the post ct.p. I'll report back

    Chris

     

  • Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:57 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    Carlos Moderator
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    Parts should be no more than £25, but you'll be looking at either 1 or 2 hours labour. Sad

     

  • Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:12 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    nixy
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     i did my friends one but just could not get the spring back in after 4 hours i gave up ffs!!

    mine went in fine duno why his just wouldn't!!

    coils slammed, porker rims, polybushed, mapped, carbonio forge dv, tints, bonnet bra, stubby mirrors plus few other bits

    www.torque-steer.co.uk for all performance car enthuiasts!! Come join the movement lol
  • Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:37 AM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    j40hnw
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     Mine gave out on me on Sunday afternoon

    Toodled off to Vw Wayside on Monday morning and collcted the 3 parts   Around the 22 squid mark

    And was back on the road by 9;45 took around 45 mins to do and that inc compressing the spring using cable ties ( its such a weak spring anyway ) you can push down on it by hand.

     

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  • Mon, Jul 21 2008 5:32 PM Re: Clutch Pedal Swap out / repair

    n_eiluk
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    Happened to me tonight just as I pulled up outside my house, how lucky was that!  Thought that sounded expensive but true to form 30 secs searching this forum and I found the answer.  Yet another silly plastic part, just like the window regulator!

    Anyway, after stripping it down (what a nightmare) the metal plate has broken and so has the plastic stop.  What I'd like to ask is does the arm on the master cylinder have a slight bend near the ball going downards or is the damn thing bent and I have to replace the master cylinder too?  It's not a big bend hence my thinking it may be in the design.  Can't tell on your photos, does anyone have a pic of the master cylinder rod?  I'll try and get one from mine tomorrow to show you what I mean.

    Many thanks, this forum proves such a valuable resource  and stops me getting robbed by the stealers.

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