Hi everyone sorry to repeat the question i see so many others asking but i just wanted someone to clear this up for me once and for all before i spend my well earned cash!

i am about to buy some coilovers and have been confused by alot of things. if i am going to lower it 45mm and have 18s do i need to change the anti roll bars aswell? if so where can i get some decent ones without spending a shed load and i was thinking about these spax rsx??

http://www.rimstyle.com/pages/products/product_detail.html?category=height_adjustable_co;type=spax_rsx;model=3297;id=RSX539

any help is really appreciated as im just shootin in the dark at the moment lol

Thanks

-Andy

Ive been looking and it seems 50mm + is where ARB issues become a problem.

Id say best bet is see how it goes then if you need them get em otherwise you've not wasted money!

Tom

ahhh, thanks mate i think that i will probably do that and hope for the best lol unless someone actually knows that i will need to replace them.

 once u go past 40mm u have 2 change the arb as the driveshafts will hit otherwise

ahh ok well looks like my wallet is going to have to be made a little lighter. ill probly end up buying the coilovers lowering 40mm then savin for the ARBs. Thanks for your help guys

 Pat,i guess the higher spec models with the thicker driveshafts would have more of a problem than a  1.4-1.6.Just a theory

im sure mines gone lower than 40 on coils its wound down about 3/4 to the botom of the threads and has not touched then again on my 4mo the front arb is under the driveshafts not looped over

i think im down about 50mm on my eibach coilovers and not hand ANY rubbing yet.

suck it and see really

ian

v64mobora:

im sure mines gone lower than 40 on coils its wound down about 3/4 to the botom of the threads and has not touched then again on my 4mo the front arb is under the driveshafts not looped over

Jon.

Patch:

 Pat,i guess the higher spec models with the thicker driveshafts would have more of a problem than a  1.4-1.6.Just a theory

totally understand your thinking mate, but I've seen all sorts over the years

most notable was an indigo blue TDi at Top Gear in Burnley a few years back .. I went under it when it was up on the ramp as it was dropped about 80mm up front and was running some Lenso 18s. The driveshaft was dead centre to to the standard ARB with no telltale ring of contact on the shaft itself. That was one of the thicker diameter shafts too. He had different (but OEM) droplinks fitted, they were 15mm shorter than mine. Mine are the really thin spindly ones and his were the fat plastic type ones

harveysduvet:

v64mobora:

im sure mines gone lower than 40 on coils its wound down about 3/4 to the botom of the threads and has not touched then again on my 4mo the front arb is under the driveshafts not looped over

You've answered your own question Dave! 4Mo doesn't suffer the same problems with lowering as a 2wd car does, as like you've said, the arb goes under rather than over the drive shaft on these.

Jon.

so this means i can go lower than this lol

v64mobora:

harveysduvet:

v64mobora:

im sure mines gone lower than 40 on coils its wound down about 3/4 to the botom of the threads and has not touched then again on my 4mo the front arb is under the driveshafts not looped over

You've answered your own question Dave! 4Mo doesn't suffer the same problems with lowering as a 2wd car does, as like you've said, the arb goes under rather than over the drive shaft on these.

Jon.

so this means i can go lower than this lol

 

Jon.

 my chasis rails didnt need nothing untill i was about 100-105mm down, even then, the easy ways is to just hit it with a big hammer

^^^ 100 - 105mm down ^^^^

we need pics now ajd100

ian

evil genius:

i think im down about 50mm on my eibach coilovers and not hand ANY rubbing yet.

suck it and see really

ian

hey ian,

what eibach coilovers have you got? im looking for some now.. whats the ride comfort like?

eibach pro street coilovers.

if im totally honest they can be a little uncomforable through town and villages but its to be expected BUT

it more than makes up for it when you take it round the twistys. the handling is superb

thois is how it sits, its about 50mill down on 18's and it wil go down another 40mil at least if its needed

hth

ian

 Did you no when you lower this much it does not handle better it gets worse ! as  if you lower a MkIV chassis too far the wishbone sits at the wrong angle which screws your roll centre/CoG relationship, and thus screws the handling.

 check this out http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/78411.aspx

gellideg:

 Did you no when you lower this much it does not handle better it gets worse ! as  if you lower a MkIV chassis too far the wishbone sits at the wrong angle which screws your roll centre/CoG relationship, and thus screws the handling.

 check this out http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/78411.aspx

obviously. to get the best out of mk4 standard suspension and to have the roll centres correct, the car actualy needs to be raised a bit! but fassion ove function holmes. however, no matter how you look at it, a lower CofG is a good thing no matter what

although, with regards to camber, when my car was slammed, the cambe was bang on, the wishbones became inverted to not far off the same angle as standard, thus pulling the base of the shock back in, giving correct camber, however now its up again, cambers well out, although handling is probably better but tyre wear is a pain

 Tbh i feel ians looks spot on and subtle, im basically going down the route of full powerflex bushes, eibachs coilovers, arbs, and front upper and lower s3 strut braces, poss a rear one as well. Which will certainly stiffen it all up abit!