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V5 Engine,Please Explain It

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  • Mon, Sep 1 2008 1:59 PM V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    Patch
    Golf IV GTI 1.8T 20v AGU 150PS
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     I was driving the other day and we went past a V5,my passenger asked about the engine.I didn't know the answerEmbarrassed

    How does it work,does have a bank of 3 and a bank of 2? V6 is a bank of 3 and another bank of 3 right?

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  • Mon, Sep 1 2008 2:08 PM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    tomxt99
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    Hi Patch,

    Not sure on the technical bit but think its 2 at the back, 3 at the front Tongue Tied

    Heres a pic if this helps:

    All I know is the 150 has HT leads and the 170 has coil packs.

    Great sound though I love it Smile

    Tom

  • Mon, Sep 1 2008 2:09 PM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    xmarktx
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     bank of 2 then 3 from what i can gather a very impresive engine but the one to go for is the red 5 as it got extra valves and a few tweaks

  • Mon, Sep 1 2008 2:12 PM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    v64mobora
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    afaik its and adaptation of the vr6 with basicly a cylinder loped off

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUkaYtMaCeQ

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  • Mon, Sep 1 2008 2:14 PM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    old_n07
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  • Mon, Sep 1 2008 6:13 PM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    Gti Fly
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    it's a 5cylinder version of a vr6,   so basically a vr6 with a cylinder lopped off.

     

    It's actually a VR5,   meaning inline V5,   so the banks of cylinders are set in a v format, but inline-ish,   very odd layout to be honest,  not sure why VW did make it,  lots of design issues to get around to make it work right,   inherent unbalanced nature for a start,   but it does make a very nice noise



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  • Tue, Sep 2 2008 6:56 AM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    Coggy
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     Shorter than an in-line six

    Not so wide as a V6

    That's probably why they made it

  • Tue, Sep 2 2008 8:20 AM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    davemarkey
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     The V5 engine is a V form engine with five cylinders, though this engine is not a true twin-bank V engine, but rather a VR5, or staggered bank straight five engine, and therefore not a true V5. The engine is derived from the VR6, and is thus a staggered 5, and has much in common with Volkswagen's earlier straight 5 developed in the 1980's for the Passat and Audi Quattro.

    Volkswagen's VR5 is a 2.3 litre gasoline engine descending directly from the older VR6 from which VW removed a cylinder creating the first block to use five cylinders in a V design.

    Taken from the golf v5 forum.

    "davemarkey"

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    Sunny


  • Tue, Sep 2 2008 8:32 AM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    ajb100
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     they are on an 11degree V, and so i have been told on good authority that they were originaly designed for the american marked who have their great detest for 4 pots.

    using the 11 degrees, they are shorter than a straight 5 allowing it to be fitted transversely in the golf while still having the properties of a straight engine

    that v5oc explanaition is basicaly wiki

    dont know much about the firing order on them though, although would guess it would be similar to a 3 cylinder engine

    to big see forum rules *ahem* too
  • Tue, Sep 2 2008 8:47 AM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    davemarkey
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    Taken from the VW self study manual on the Vr5 engine

    Why do V-engines exist?

    Front-wheel drive, in combination with a transversely mounted four-cylinder inline engine, is now part and parcel of many motor vehicle

    concepts. Installing the engine transversely has promoted the development of more compact vehicles. But the vehicle width is not sufficient to

    accommodate inline engines with more than four cylinders.

    This is why the V-engine came into being.

    Al-though V-engines have a very short overall length, they are rather wide - with a V-angle of 60° or 90°

    - and hence cannot be used in smaller mid-range vehicles.

     

    V-engine with an angle of 15

    °

    The VR engines and the new V5 engine combine the advantages of the V-concept with the advantages of the inline engine.

    These are:

     

    short overall length thanks to V-angle,

    small overall width thanks to the

    V-angle of 15

    only one cylinder head is required,

    The V5 was derived from the VR6 by removing the 1st cylinder from the latter.

    The resulting, even more compact design makes it possible to use this powerful unit in all vehicle classes.

     

    Engine code

    AGZ

    V-angle

    15°

    Displacement

    2324 cm

    Bore 81.0 mm

    Stroke

    90.2 mm

    Compression ratio

    10.0 : 1

    Firing order

    1 - 2 - 4 - 5 - 3

    Mixture preparation and ignition Bosch Motronic M3.8.3

    Fuel

    95 RON unleaded premium

    Exhaust gas aftertreatment:

    Three-way catalytic converter with lambda control

    "davemarkey"

    aka

    Sunny


  • Tue, Sep 2 2008 8:52 AM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    SiGainey
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    Yeah, it's not a V as in V8 with two banks of 4, it's basically 5 cylinders diagonally arranged in the minimum amount of space. Great sounding engines Smile

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  • Tue, Sep 2 2008 8:59 AM Re: V5 Engine,Please Explain It

    Coggy
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     The other thought is five instead of six will result in better fuel consumption, all other things being equal

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