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Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

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  • Sat, Nov 19 2005 6:14 AM Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    ct.p
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    Decided I had to do this despite living with a known faulty flap motor for over a year as it was effecting the operation of the climatronic system on my car. I was starting to get other fault codes and the system wasn't behaving as it should.

    Words of warning here, space is very very tight in accessing the motor you can barely see it let alone work on it. Fortunately though once you understand how it fits it's not to bad.

    Below are some photos with a few notes added. The main thing is to understand how it fits on / into the heater housing and that it operates two air flaps, one via the external actuator rods and one where the motor shaft fits over the upper air flap shaft.

     

     

     

     

    Things to do order of work :-

    1, remove glovebox (tip, cut the annoying tag off that means you need to remove the centre console every time, I've cut the tag off and don't suffer any rattles or squeeks)

    2, remove scuttle panel, the curved section of trim that goes from the sill to door pillar (pulls off)

    3, try and create space for your hands to get in by moving the large wiring loom that just happens to be right in the way. You can get one hand in from below once the scuttle trim is removed and one from above almost below the side air vent once a little space is created.

    4, Unclip actuator rod as photo above, use small sharp screwdriver.

    5, Unclip wiring to motor

    6, Undo fixing screw, location and orientation shown via woodscrew in photo above, tilt motor down at the back about 45 deg and wiggle off top flap shaft and out/ off car.

    7, Officially.... The new flap motor comes in the recirc position, you are supposed to connect it and set it to the fresh position to fit. (you try it if you want but I fiddled with no success). My way.... I removed the blower motor which two cover screws at the bottom, motor then slides out of heater assembly downwards. This way you can get your hands on the upper flap from inside the air plenum so that it lines up with the motor shaft. Wiggle / fiddle / wiggle / fiddle for ages, cut / graze and hurt your lower arms at lot, part dislocate your shoulder etc etc. Eventually you'll have the motor in place, fit screw (tip, hold screw to screw driver by taping it on otherwise it'll keep falling off), re-fit wiring, re fit blower motor.

    8, Put your dash back together, job done.

     

    It's a tough job, it hurts, you can't see and have to do it blind BUT it is do-able if your reasonable at messing with your car.

    Hope it helps one day as this, so I believe is a common problem on our cars.

    The cost of the motor was about £ 78 from VW (Nov 2005)

    A6 Avant
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  • Sat, Nov 19 2005 7:22 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    hz2921
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    Excellent write up!!!, its good to keep these how to,s as you never know when something may go wrong.

    Thanks

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  • Sat, Jul 29 2006 9:27 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    PHIL_M
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    Right just attempted this ba*?ard  job and was all going well untill it came to taking the motor out, i cant for the life of me get the dam thing out, removed the screw and it still seems really tight.

    I give up in the end and pluged the harness back in and would you believe it has started working fine again, though i am certain it wont last.

    So any more advice on getting the motor out would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Phil

     

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  • Mon, May 21 2007 12:14 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    mluton
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    Im sorry to bring up an old thread, but i need to prepare myself for changing this part if the flap reset via the VAG COM doesnt work.

    Has anybody, got this in full with the pictures ? Does the orginator still post on here ?

    Many Thanks.

    Matt
     

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  • Mon, Jun 25 2007 10:25 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    JETTA TDI
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    mluton:

    Im sorry to bring up an old thread, but i need to prepare myself for changing this part if the flap reset via the VAG COM doesnt work.

    Has anybody, got this in full with the pictures ? Does the orginator still post on here ?

    Many Thanks.

    Matt
     

     

    Same here, photos would be a great help. I'll have to tackle this myself over the next few weeks

  • Mon, Jul 2 2007 11:27 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    JETTA TDI
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    @ ct.p - any chance you have the Part Number for the part that needs to be replaced & also the old

    photos aswell?

     Cheers,

     Tony

  • Tue, Jul 3 2007 12:26 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    mluton
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    Just to let you guys know i reset my flap motor with a VAG COM and now all works as good as new.

    Flap Motor Reset

    08 Heater/A.C
    04 Basic settings
    Channel 000 (30 Secs)
    001 (30 Secs)
    002 (30 Secs)


     

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  • Tue, Jul 3 2007 3:06 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    ct.p
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    Sorry for ignoring this I'm not on here much these days due to not having a Golf anymore...

     Anyway, the pictures are lost sadly but don't let that put you off, it can be done. When you have the new motor it helps as you can see how it is fixed. Note you can't see anything on the car, you are effectively working blind !

    As for re-setting the motor, I did this a few times, it lasted for a while but always failed again !

    A6 Avant
  • Wed, Jul 4 2007 11:03 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    JETTA TDI
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    Cheers for the replies lads. I'll try to reset it first & see how long it lasts.

    Failing that, I'll order the new fan & prepare to have my knuckles, hands and arms torn off!

  • Sat, Apr 19 2008 10:16 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    Stan 24v
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    Any chance of getting the pics from you for this mate? 

  • Sat, Apr 19 2008 10:28 AM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    Stan 24v
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    Sorry, just noticed you dont have them any more. Anyone know if its the same part for all Golf's? 

  • Wed, Jun 4 2008 2:05 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    chris_golfse
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     if your on about the v71 then yes it is


    Good bye golf, hello warrior!

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  • Sun, Sep 7 2008 5:30 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    mutley*1
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    I made an attempt at fitting this today and took a couple of photos for people.

    You will see below what I think is the actuator rod to be removed. Also Power X I believe is the electrical connection for the V71.When I switched my ignition on it is definitely the bit in there that makes the noise.

    However if you then look at the pic of the V71 below there is no way possible that the black bit at the actuator rod and the Power X both come from the V71. And feeling along the black bit connected to the actuator rod it isn't as long as the black rail bit on the V71.

    Having noticed this I then started to wonder if the "V71" in the picture below is the correct part.

    Also having removed then reconnected the power at Power X the V71 no longer makes its gurgly knackered noise.

    1. Does anyone know if the V71 I have pictured is the correct part (V1J0 907 511 AF0204 Air Dist House on VW Receipt)?
    2. If it is the correct part I take it the black bit connected to the white actuator rod doesn't directly come from the V71?

    Cheers

     

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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 1:16 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    chris_golfse
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    im not too sure what your asking. but just take the old v71 out, and connect everyhting back up and put it in again?  take the fan housing off and fiddle with that to get it back in as its easier.. hope that helped not sure if it did!


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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 1:55 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    PHIL_M
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    Thats the wrong part you have there mate, i will try and find my old receipt for the part No.
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  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 2:12 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    PHIL_M
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    Think this is the one 1J2907511A , Oh and trust me the noise will come back, i had the same thing messed around with it and the noise went for a couple of days then came back...
    http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v218/pipmann30/GOLF%20GTI%20%20TURBO/?albumview=slideshow

    GOLF 1.9T TD05H 18G Front wheel drive monster..0-60mph in 5 sec 0-100mph in 10 sec
    ''I don't think so, there's no one at McLaren who can weld that badly." - Gordon Murray, designer of the McLaren F1, on if it would resemble the Ferrari F40.


  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 2:22 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    BlackMagic20vt
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     Yes Phil is correct in that the noise will come back why not open the flap into fresh air position and disconnect the motor as its only used for recirc and I cant see any point of it being there why would you want to recirc the same dusty air in your car other than to keep the aircon cooler we dont get a summer in this country long enough to warrant that.

  • Fri, Sep 12 2008 6:04 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    mutley*1
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    PHIL_M:
    Think this is the one 1J2907511A , Oh and trust me the noise will come back, i had the same thing messed around with it and the noise went for a couple of days then came back...

    Cheers I thought it wasnt the right part so I gave up, glad I did now.

    Out of interest how did you release the actuator rod? The OP says use a small sharp screwdriver but I cant see that working really. I was trying a screwdriver and then some long nosed pliers with no luck before I gave up.

     

     

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  • Fri, Sep 19 2008 4:53 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    ct.p
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    The small sharp screwdriver was the only way I found of levering off the arm. Hard to explain but I managed it. It needs to be sharp / new so that it bites and doesn't slip off as you apply leverage.

    Also to re-iterate and the easy way, take the fan motor out so you can align the air flap to the motor. Then refit / clip back on the arm for the other flap. Not sure if it is clear from my original post but this motor operates two flaps.

    The two sets of cables / looms also are;

    One for the V71

    The other for the air temp sensor.

    Hope this helps.

     

    A6 Avant
  • Thu, Oct 30 2008 5:28 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    PHIL_M
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    I have managed to dig out the paper work from ct.p original guide and i have scanned the missing pictures for anyone trying to do this. not the best of quality but they are a few years old now.

    HTH

    Phil

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    GOLF 1.9T TD05H 18G Front wheel drive monster..0-60mph in 5 sec 0-100mph in 10 sec
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  • Fri, Oct 31 2008 12:36 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    ct.p
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     Nice work Phil.

    Thought they were gone forever

    A6 Avant
  • Sat, Jan 3 2009 1:00 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    Del64
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     I appreciate this is an old thread but has anyone thought to remove the cd changer, radio and climatronic units to gain access to these delightful little items?

    Derek

    2003 Reflex Golf V5 with 25th Anniversary kit and 18" RS4's
    2002 Saab 9-5 Aero auto on 17SS rims
  • Sat, Jan 3 2009 1:15 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    noddy1875
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    Del64:

     I appreciate this is an old thread but has anyone thought to remove the cd changer, radio and climatronic units to gain access to these delightful little items?

     

    Its the other side of the glovebox, up by the side of the door. Nothing you can rmove really to get to it.

    Although i am going to try doing mine with the fan out, when i get round to it. Idea

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  • Sat, Jan 3 2009 1:53 PM Re: Recirc air flap motor (V71) remove and replace guide.

    Del64
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     Eeewwww thats a bu66er! Just like changing the spark plugs on a BMW V12 I think this is another use for a second elbow joint halfway between the origial and the wristTongue Tied

    Derek

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