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#1 Stonedofmoo

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 06:00 PM

Me: That stupid pull lever that kicks out when the bonnet is to be lifted. You have to first bend open the ears to release it whenever you want to remove the bumper, and I'm just waiting for the blooming thing to break!

 

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 06:08 PM

For me it would the integrated vw badge/boot lever like they have in the newer models.

Oh and btw, you can remove the bumper without prying the ears apart! You just fold the grill over and tape it in place :D

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 08:32 PM

This  p i s s  poor designed b a s t a r d  :Y:

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 08:52 PM

Is that a door lock? :)


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:49 PM

Understeer.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:32 AM

Understeer.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:33 AM

For me it would the integrated vw badge/boot lever like they have in the newer models.

Oh and btw, you can remove the bumper without prying the ears apart! You just fold the grill over and tape it in place :D

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Yeah I used to bungee strap the grille up to the bonnet loop whilst removing the bumper then just unhook it once it was out of the way.

The bloody door mechanisms on these are the work of the devil.

And those friggin clip / bayonet boost pipe connectors across the range of PD TDI engines - DIE DIE DIE!!!!

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:45 AM

Doors/frame, to the audi design where the window with some gum from underneath the roof opens and not the whole heavy metal illegitimate child with half of the roof. Which freezes solid to the roof no matter the amount of silicone you spray on it. It holds water there, rusts, makes driving in high speeds very loudly n windy.
And they're heavy, wears hinges down and you have to smash them to close, barn doors. Feels old.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:53 AM

Sounds just like a Golf.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:09 AM

Me: That stupid pull lever that kicks out when the bonnet is to be lifted. You have to first bend open the ears to release it whenever you want to remove the bumper, and I'm just waiting for the blooming thing to break!

 

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No you dont. you can get the grill loose with this in place and just flip it up on itself you dont have to take it out as ive found.

 

 

If i could change just one thing about these, It would be the driving position. Its not the worst, but i always feel a little twisted off to one side. rather than bang straight on.

 

Leg my legs seem to be off to the left all the time.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:10 AM

lol yeah Sky28 mentioned that also. Well as I have to remove it yet again this weekend I'll give that a try :)


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:19 AM

If i could change just one thing about these, It would be the driving position. Its not the worst, but i always feel a little twisted off to one side. rather than bang straight on.

 

Leg my legs seem to be off to the left all the time.

 

Drive a Mini for a week and you'll see it 100 times worse.  Never noticed the problem in the MK4.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:21 AM

Ooooooooh I just thought of one! The wheel bolts! Why can't they have studs on the hub?! So annoying having to look at the wheel then line it up, hold it in place, grab a bolt to secure it, move it slightly then add the rest. I wonder how much time and energy I've wasted. And don't even mention when I first got the car and the screws securing the disc had sheered that was sooooooo much fun!!!!


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:22 AM

Na I can't say the driving position has ever affected me in my mk4's or Leon either.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:27 AM

Ooooooooh I just thought of one! The wheel bolts! Why can't they have studs on the hub?! So annoying having to look at the wheel then line it up, hold it in place, grab a bolt to secure it, move it slightly then add the rest. I wonder how much time and energy I've wasted. And don't even mention when I first got the car and the screws securing the disc had sheered that was sooooooo much fun!!!!

 

You can buy stud conversion kits.  Not sure how adapters would work though.  

 

People always tighten them down so much.  I tighten them using a Torx bit in a 10mm socket and tighten it as much as I can with the socket in my hand, rather than using a wrench.  Means it always comes out.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 10:45 AM

You can buy stud conversion kits.  Not sure how adapters would work though.  

 

People always tighten them down so much.  I tighten them using a Torx bit in a 10mm socket and tighten it as much as I can with the socket in my hand, rather than using a wrench.  Means it always comes out.

 

Maybe a dab of cooper slip next time too. Not sure... but think they had blue lock tight on them when I got a hub flange from ECP. Hand tight it is!


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:04 AM



Drive a Mini for a week and you'll see it 100 times worse.  Never noticed the problem in the MK4.

It doesnt seem anywhere near as bad in the mk5 and as i remember the mk3. My polo was pretty good.aswell.

 

But even my chiropractor admits that VW's do twist you about abit and he drives a V12 touareg lol

 

Also, I do stud conversion kits.....can send you the eby link if you wish..

 

And yeh its loads easier to flip the grill up out of the way, remove the bumper then let the grill hang down again.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:05 AM

How does it work with adapters?


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:34 PM

The one thing i would change is that they were now the current model! Loved my mk4 and just wish it hadnt got old! Other than that, the boot opener was a pain as it was prone to rust.

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 12:46 PM

That stupid angle that the wishbones sit at when you drop them a bit.

 

Aside from that, I love 'em.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:06 PM

It doesnt seem anywhere near as bad in the mk5 and as i remember the mk3. My polo was pretty good.aswell.

 

But even my chiropractor admits that VW's do twist you about abit and he drives a V12 touareg lol

 

Also, I do stud conversion kits.....can send you the eby link if you wish..

 

And yeh its loads easier to flip the grill up out of the way, remove the bumper then let the grill hang down again.

 

 

 

Sweet just had a look. Pm me a link for the standard wheels please


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:23 PM

How does it work with adapters?

@adam- what wheel studs? two ways, If you have studs on the hubs. already you can either get an adapter that's as thick as the stud is long. Bolt adapter down using studs and bolts.

 

Adapter comes with pressed studs, to your chosen pcd.

 

If they adapters are narrower than the studs in the hubs, you have to cut the studs down.

 

Or You take the studs out. Fit adapter as you would with supplied Allen bolts, then the adatper again has pressed studs to your chosen pcd


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:35 PM

Rusty arches, and the glovebox hidden screw !!

 

Sorry, that's two, but they cause(d) me issues.



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Posted 18 January 2017 - 03:42 PM

For me I'd say it’s the stupid design to have the water intake pipe going straight through the rear wiper, sure it’s find during the summer and warmer months BUT as soon as the winter weather comes that darn pipe lets go and creates nothing but problems,  why couldn't VW reposition the washer pipe ect so it doesn’t shoot up the rear window but instead flows down the rear window like other cars Clios, Fiestia's, Focuses ect it's almost like VW were being typical German we want it done our way not copying any other car manufacturer even if they have had no problems with there’s!

 

Ever since I've had mine repaired I really haven't bothered using it if my rear window gets too dirty I just use some glass cleaner followed by some Rain-X perfect during the rain.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 05:04 PM

wow u mean uve got a rear wiper on the mk4... i thought they were made with a hole and electrical tape cover? thats how i bought mine and most of the others i see : )
i no this is a what would u change post but ill mix it up with... every other car ever made should have the wiper settings of a mk4 golf! standard!

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 05:16 PM

My wiper and washer works just fine :D (The previous owner fixed the washer pipe)


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 05:26 PM

I don't know what you are all on about, the MK4 is perfect in every way. :whistle:

 

For me, things that have given me bother;

 

1, Limited access for PD TDI cambelt changes.

2, The cambelt temnsioner and damper setup aka the pesky 4mm on early PD TDI's

3, Door lock mechanisms

4, Plastic window regulator clips

5, Seizing wiper rack

6, V71 flap motor

7, Clutch pedal snappage

8, And as they are gracefully aging the interior plastics are not fairing too well.

9, Front wing rust.

 

Other than that everything else is a minor niggle. Compare them to almost any other car of a similar age and they are doing quite well, they are extremely tough and long lived cars that with a bit of care and attention are staying out of the scrapyards.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 10:03 AM

Ooooooooh I just thought of one! The wheel bolts! Why can't they have studs on the hub?! So annoying having to look at the wheel then line it up, hold it in place, grab a bolt to secure it, move it slightly then add the rest. I wonder how much time and energy I've wasted. And don't even mention when I first got the car and the screws securing the disc had sheered that was sooooooo much fun!!!!

Yeah, no, stupid. Have you seen loose wheels? I have, 9 out of 10 where studs. They are not any faster or easier to do.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 11:05 AM

Think he means studs are easy to get a wheel on with and i agree, it is marginanlly faster/easier with studs.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:46 PM

Yeah, no, stupid. Have you seen loose wheels? I have, 9 out of 10 where studs. They are not any faster or easier to do.


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Ok, thanks buddy.


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