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Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:08 AM

How To: Convert Mk5 Golf Front End to GTI, GT or Jetta


 


* Note – Nothing in this guide relates to the Mk4 Golf or older. Mk5 only.


 


This guide is to show how to convert the Mk5 Golf front end from standard (any version, eg petrol or diesel) to the GTI, current design GT or the Chrome fronted Jetta. This guide will not relate to an R32 front conversion, but Im sure the process is very similar. I will also show how to fit the GTI Twin Exit Exhaust Backbox to NON 4-Wheel drive Golfs (eg, not the R32 or 4 Motion versions since the design of the vehicles underside is different) but the lower spec models or the older version Golf GT’s that do not have the Twin Backbox like the new model.


 


1. First of all, some facts...


 


The GTI and new shape GT front bumpers are identical, the only difference are the grilles. Therefore the lower GTI Splitter / Spoiler will fit onto the GT’s. Additionally, that enables you to also vary the grilles you fit, for example I went for the Special Edition ‘Speed’ look for my Mk5 GT with lower honeycombe GTI grilles and upper GT Grille instead of the honeycombe. (VW made a handful of Special Edition Speed Golfs but only released them in Germany I believe, pictures are on the internet) Coincidentaly, the Jetta Upper Grille is identical to the GT but is chrome in colour.


 


When purchasing the parts for the conversion please note the following parts come unpainted but are undercoated in grey primer...


 


* The Main Bumper


* The Centre Panel that goes below the Upper Grille. This panel is where the Registration Plate is mounted. (The Jetta version is Chrome which I would believe comes Chromed and does not require painting but Im not sure.)


* Two small corner ‘Mouldings’ that go on the corners of the front bumper. Some Golfs have the Headlight Washers mounted into these so the part numbers are different depending on the model you have.


 


All other parts come in plain black plastic but can be painted if required. The GTI bumper lower spoiler comes unprimered in black plastic also.


 


The front Fog Lights on the GTI are different to any other model and are required if you are fitting the Honeycombe mesh grilles. A word of warning, manufacturers constantly alter minor parts on cars and can sometimes prove a problem when changing things. The bulb holder and socket on the GTI fog light is different to the plug on the wireloom from your car, I managed to bend the pins in the socket very carefully with a pair of small pliers for the plug to fit. I do not know if you can get alternative plug / sockets to fit properly. This was on my particular Mk5, this may not be the case on yours.


 


To save yourself a lot of time and hassle before commencing this front end conversion get yourself a set of ‘Star’ Keys. Very similar to Allen Keys but are in a star shape, I learnt the hard way and did the conversion with allen keys and screwdrivers that just fit the bolt heads. Near the end of the job I acquired a set of Star Keys, everything became alot easier once I had those. I would highly recommend you get a set, this will avoid wearing away bolt heads.


 


You are more than welcome to use the part numbers I have stated in this guide, however I cannot 100% guarantee that everything will fit exactly as it depends on which style you want your Mk5 to have. If you are in doubt about a part you require, heres some advice...do not supply the dealership with the part number, if you find it is the wrong part and you need to return / exchange the part, the dealership parts department will not take the parts back if you gave them the part number!!! Best thing to do is find the registration number of a Golf that has the part you require, eg, the reg number of a standard GTI and describe the part you need from that car, even show them the part on the showroom vehicles. This way, the dealership are aquiring the part number and ordering the parts, if you need to return the part for a refund you are not liable for the incorrect part number and the dealership cannot blame you.


 


2. Heres some photos of ‘Before and After’, also you will see mine converted below also.


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


The Golf Speed Edition...


 


 


 


3. Part Numbers, these part numbers are for the parts that I ordered from VW to do the front conversion, these parts are required regardless the type of conversion you are doing, eg GTI, GT or Jetta (the next chapter shows the parts that can be varied, eg the Grilles) Please note these parts are only required for the standard shape Mk5’s, if you have a new look GT, all you need for the GTI look is the Grilles. And vice-versa.


 


*Prices are ex-VAT and prices correct as of Sept ’07 from VW Main Dealers


 


V1K0 807 217D GRU (Main Bumper) £134.81


V1K0 807 889 B (Piece) £2.67


V1K0 807 890 B (Piece) £2.67


V1T0 941 699 D (Fog Lamp) £38.42


V1T0 941 700 D (Fog Lamp) £38.42


V1K5 807 248 A (Foam Insert) £6.87


V1K5 853 600 MQH (Front VW Grille Badge) £13.18


V1K0 807 285 B9B9 (Front Numberplate Holder) £4.54


 


The Carrier - basically a large plastic shell that ‘carries’ the whole front end of the car, the most important of which is the Radiator. I was very surprised at guides I found on the internet that failed to clarify if you had to remove the Radiator to do this conversion, I can confirm you do not have to remove the Radiator system to do this conversion....However, the Radiator sits in the carrier, so the radiator has to be raised slightly for the old carrier to be removed. I would advise you secure the radiator in place with rope after the Carrier is removed since it is quite heavy and cannot be allowed to fall forward as this will rupture the hoses and cause a coolant leak. Tie rope around the Radiator and secure it to the Engine Block or anything strong enough to take the weight behind the Radiator. Also stand a block underneath the Radiator to take the weight, as you can see from my photo I used a Dulux paint tin as it was just the right size. No other Engine components have to be removed or altered to do this conversion. Imagine the front of your Mk5 with layers, the front most being the outer Bumper and the Carrier as the inner most.


 


The Front Member has to be changed since the Towing Eye is located in a different position and matches up to the GTI bumper. If you ever break down, the Towing Eye can be accessed easily. If you do not change the Front Member you will not be able to tow the car when the conversion is done.


 


Lower Front Member – Slightly different shape and designed to fit the GTI Carrier.


 


V1K0 805 588 S (Carrier) £130.84


V1K5 807 109 B (Front Member) £60.63


V1K0 807 093 D (Lower Front Member) £33.49


 


4. These parts can be varied in combination to how you want your Mk5 to look, for example, the GTI look with all honeycombe, or GT with all ‘transverse’ grilles or the ‘Speed’ look with half honeycombe – half trans. You could even have the GT look with a GTI honeycombe upper grille only. The choice is yours.


 


Main Upper Grille...


 


V1K0 853 651 EV W8 (GTI Honeycombe Front Grille) £65.98


V1K5 585 365 1H GRU (GT Front Grille) £127.05 – More expensive than the GTI !!!


V1K5 853 653 A9 B9 (Jetta Front Grille in Chrome I think) - £25.96


 


Bumper Lower Spolier / Splitter (Optional)...


 


V1K0 805 903 H9 B9 (Bumper Lower GTI Spoiler) £30.57


V1K0 807 110 9B 9 (Additional part to the GTI Lower Spoiler) £29.22


 


Lower Bumper Grilles...


 


V1K0 853 666 P9 B9 (Lower Left Side Honeycombe Grille) £4.68


V1K0 853 665 S9 B9 (Lower Right Side Honeycombe Grille) £4.68


V1K0 853 677 B9 B9 (Lower Centre Honeycombe Grille ) £9.02


 


V1K0 853 665 AD 9B9 (Lower Left Side Trans. (GT) Grille) £4.68


V1K0 853 666 R9 B9 (Lower Right Side Trans. (GT) Grille) £4.68


V1K0 853 677 C9 B9 (Lower Centre Trans. (GT) Grille) £15.12


 


Bumper Corner Mouldings...


 


V1K0 807 717E GRU (Moulding – Left - for Golfs with Headlight Washers) £7.18


V1K0 807 718E GRU (Moulding – Right - for Golfs with Headlight Washers) £7.18


 


V1K0 807 717 BGRU (Moulding – Left – for Golfs WITHOUT Headlight Washers) £7.18


V1K0 807 718 BGRU (Moulding – Left – for Golfs WITHOUT Headlight Washers) £7.18


 


5. GTI Twin Tailpipe Exhaust Backbox


 


The second mod you could do to make your Mk5 Golf look like the new GT or the GTI, you could install a different backbox to give you the Twin Tailpipes out the back of the rear Bumper Valance. On models lower than the GT or GTI, the backbox has two ‘turned down’ tailpipes hidden under the rear bumper. For the sportier look you can change the lower half (Valance) of the Rear bumper with a cut out to allow for the Tailpipes. The GTI Valance has a slight difference in appearance to the GT’s and your be happy to know the GTI Backbox does fit to the GT and vice-versa.


 


Both silencers are practically identical except for one point – which is important if you buy a GTI system for the GT! The pipe leading up from the Backbox to join the cat and manifold (basically the long straight piece that runs along the centre section of the car) is SHORTER on the GTI version. To remedy this, when the old system is removed, cut the existing pipe on your GT so it reaches the shorter GTI pipe. Merge the two pipes together by welding or with a clamp to seal the system. Experienced advice may be needed for this mod or have a Garage do it for you. Note: My local Kwikfit wouldnt fit the exhaust because I didn’t buy the exhaust from them and Formula 1st only fit like-for-like exhausts so wont do a welding ‘mod’ job. I had to find a smaller independent Garage that were happy to do it.


 


Other than the shorter pipe between the GTI and GT exhaust, the rest of the system – including shape and the hangers are the same.


 


Part Numbers:


 


V1K6 807 521 D9B9 (GTI lower Rear Bumper Valance)


GT lower Rear Bumper Valance –UNKNOWN


 


GTI Rear Exhaust Silencer with Twin Chrome Tailpipes - UNKNOWN


 


I hope this guide proves helpful to anyone considering this conversion for the Mk5 Golf, and I must admit, from the planning stage, buying the parts and installing (which I did myself), the whole process is easier than you think. All you need is a dab hand and patience. Oh yes, those bolts do rust, seize up and can prove very difficult to undo. With alot of WD-40 and perserverence they do come off eventually.


 


In total, the entire conversion that you see above, including the Front End change, painting and the Exhaust mod amounted to the following...


 


*I got the GTI Silencer second hand so I do not know the price from VW


 


Total Parts - £937.99 inc VAT


Bumper Painting - £150 inc VAT


 


TOTAL - £1087.99




#2 golfmk5gttdi

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 03:26 PM

I am currently undertaking this, this poster mentions nothing of the difference in the carrier units, the different screws and fixings that are required,


 


he makes it look easy - IT IS NOT>


 see it all here VVVVV


http://www.vwaudifor...ead.php?t=30645



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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:15 AM

I agree i started this conversion then a friend told me you can get a bumper that just goes straight on. How annoyed was i but managed to get rid of the bumper and have purchased the direct fit version.


 



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Posted 12 August 2008 - 07:16 PM

 good little guide



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Posted 13 December 2009 - 02:11 AM

 direct fit version? gavinporter can you tell me where to get one of those from?



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Posted 19 January 2010 - 10:48 AM

i have found this "http://vagen.vg//catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2711"


looks like the complete GTI bumper, does not look like original VW part but still looks ok.



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Posted 05 March 2010 - 10:39 AM

How do these vagen bumpers fit? im thinking about getting one to fit my GT TDI as i like the look of the newer GT. 


Also does anyone know if the upper grills can be changed using original parts?



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Posted 01 May 2010 - 04:10 PM

Useful guide - thanks.


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#9 jackbanny173

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 04:09 AM

I successfully changed my front end using this guide thank you :)



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Posted 23 March 2011 - 06:02 AM

Could any one help me?
Is the jetta bumper the same fitting as the gti or gt bumper? It only says about the upper grill been the same as the gt one but chrome :S
I'm wanting to do this conversion and iv found a jetta front bumper but I need to no if it will fit as soon as before it gets sold :(
anyone?

Thanks

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:28 AM

This guide is really helpful But I am unsure about one thing I have a gt Tdi 55 plate and I have bought a jetta front end but with out the grills and so on but looking and reading your thread if I am right I cannot just swap over due to the towing eye so I need a new/ replacement part what's this called and does it deff need changing

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 02:48 AM



Bump for some interesting reading... Good guide but expensive! Can the original S/SE bumper not be used and the grilles etc just be upgraded to save costs?




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Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:45 AM

 


Bump for some interesting reading... Good guide but expensive! Can the original S/SE bumper not be used and the grilles etc just be upgraded to save costs?

 

 


No

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:07 AM

nope but there are loads of non GTI conversion bumpers which good pretty good. xparts do the cheapest one probably around £160 quid. they are also ABS plastic and not crappy fibreglass.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:25 PM

Just a quick update on prices:


I contacted my local Volkswagen dealer directly to get a price on parts as I'm looking at putting a GTI front grille on my 05' GT. 
This guide was wrote 5 years ago, so I was expecting an increase, but was shocked at this...


V1K0 853 651 EV W8 (GTI Honeycombe Front Grille) £65.98 NOW £116.07 + VAT


V1K0 853 666 P9 B9 (Lower Left Side Honeycombe Grille) £4.68 NOW £23.31 + VAT


V1K0 853 665 S9 B9 (Lower Right Side Honeycombe Grille) £4.68 NOW £23.31 + VAT


V1K0 853 677 B9 B9 (Lower Centre Honeycombe Grille ) £9.02 NOW £34.46 + VAT


That's £236.58 inc VAT for just the GTI front grille! Amazing how prices change in 5 years


 



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Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:42 PM

That is quite a big increase! Guess its because the MK5 is out of production and we are now on the MK7. Probably easier to just go aftermarket, they've got cheaper if anything! http://cgi.ebay.co.u...em=221066020590


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:52 AM

You can fit genuine bumpers which cost around that from VW (plus VAT and what not) and will fit better.


not only that but you can buy 2nd hand bumpers and just have them resprayed after you've trimmed them. It's a lot cheaper than buying a non-genuine part which will fit but not 100%.


As for parts of the grills and what not - yeah they are very expensive. I want the little chrome strips on top of the fog grills on a Jetta. To my amusement they are £155 not including VAT... was shocked.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:16 AM

Much cheaper to source 2nd hand OEM parts, as said ^^^ better fit and you could find a colour match too so no need for paint.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:58 PM


Goofer, was wondering if you or anyone else can help me.
I've got an 05' mk5 GT with the standard golf front end and plan on swapping it for the gti front end.
I've already bought the following GTI honeycomb grilles (4 in total); the main upper centre piece, the lower centre piece, and the two (left and right) corner pieces. 



I've had a look at different guides across the web but I'm struggling to keep up to speed. Do I need any more parts?
Am I right to suggest I'll need a completely new front bumper as well? With the section cut out for the main honeycomb grille..?


Massively appreciated,
Tony 




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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

You need a new bumper.


 


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