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#1 RichardT

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:03 PM

When I first heard about the Mk7 Golf, I was concerned about the electric handbrake, never having used one before and also seeing reports of problems with them on other vehicles.

 

Would like to hear from Mk7 owners their views on it - any problems, or does it just work fine?

 

Thanks.

 




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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:41 PM

I havent used it myself,but I know that audis have had it for years.Heard a few reports but I know a few guys with it in their audis and they have had no problems.one of them is a 2006 car and no bad word about it.

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 07:21 AM

Worked fine for me on my test drive, as did the hill hold thingy - a real treat.

I trust the early issues with the hand rakes have been sorted
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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:31 AM

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 10:55 AM

When I first heard about the Mk7 Golf, I was concerned about the electric handbrake, never having used one before and also seeing reports of problems with them on other vehicles.

 

Would like to hear from Mk7 owners their views on it - any problems, or does it just work fine?

 

Thanks.

 

Well it works okay I'll give you the good points and bad points

 

Good:

It does hold the car well, never any issues with creeping.

Auto hold works a treat (as long as you press the brake firmly when you stop)

Leaves plenty of space in the centre console

 

Bad:

Doesn't always disengage cleanly can cause the car to stutter

Can be an absolute paint to disengage when trying to park in a tight space

Doesn't engage auto hold if you take your seat belt off when you stop so car might not actually have handbrake on when you think it does.

 

All in all it works better than I expected it to but there are a few quibbles. In saying that you start to expect them and know when they will appear so adapt to them soon enough. I always leave the car in gear when parked though..............................just in case.
 



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 11:35 AM

Driven a few cars with leccy hand breaks
Audis - really nice
Volvo - ok
Vauxhall - danger worst idea ever
Ford - meh

Yet to test vw but if they're anything like Audi one they'll be ok

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 01:46 PM

Well it works okay I'll give you the good points and bad points

 

Good:

It does hold the car well, never any issues with creeping.

Auto hold works a treat (as long as you press the brake firmly when you stop)

Leaves plenty of space in the centre console

 

Bad:

Doesn't always disengage cleanly can cause the car to stutter

Can be an absolute paint to disengage when trying to park in a tight space

Doesn't engage auto hold if you take your seat belt off when you stop so car might not actually have handbrake on when you think it does.

 

All in all it works better than I expected it to but there are a few quibbles. In saying that you start to expect them and know when they will appear so adapt to them soon enough. I always leave the car in gear when parked though..............................just in case.
 

 

x2 on all of the above apart from;

 

My autohold works always works fine, brake only needs to be pressed very slightly when the car has stopped.

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I never have any issues with it whilst trying to park.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:40 PM

A point that a lot of people miss about the electric (electronic, actually) parking brake (EPB) is that it is a very effective emergency brake...  unlike a conventional cable handbrake which will have trouble puling a car up at 10 mph, the EPB operates full braking on all four wheels and will pull the car up very powerfully from higher speeds ( I've only tried it from 40-50 mph... ) Now it's questionable whether that will ever really be necessary (some speculate about scenarios where the driver has a heart attack and the passenger has to stop the car etc.. ) But the big thing is to brief your passenger to keep well away from it when you are driving... idle fingers etc...  Imagine the scenario: Passenger thinks 'what does this thing do?' and tugs on the EPB lever while you're driving at 70 mph on the motorway...!


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:41 PM

@Neil Birkitt Now that's something I didn't realise was built into the system! Good to know... from both points of view! :D



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 09:10 PM

Thanks for the information guys. I think I need to get me a test drive in the new year.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 11:39 PM

Test drove a few cars lately, mk7 golf, mk3 Octavia, new seat leon..
I'm going to be honest here and say it really felt no different to a "normal" handbrake.
My driving style (holding it on the clutch at lights) obviously meant auto hold never came on, so I never noticed that either.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 08:48 PM

the EPB operates full braking on all four wheels and will pull the car up very powerfully from higher speeds


The mk7's handbrake only brakes the rear wheels as a conventional one would, also if you do press it whilst driving it jolts the car and turns itself off. As a safety it is utter useless if the brakes fail or you forget to pump the pedal after fitting pads (oooops)

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:16 AM

Test drove a few cars lately, mk7 golf, mk3 Octavia, new seat leon..
I'm going to be honest here and say it really felt no different to a "normal" handbrake.
My driving style (holding it on the clutch at lights) obviously meant auto hold never came on, so I never noticed that either.

 

"Holding it on the clutch" whilst stationary, is one the worst bad driving habits you can have and will lead to premature failure of the clutch thrust bearing and other parts.I don't know how long you have been driving or how many cars you have owned but I would hate to be the garage or subsequent owner of your cars if you have been doing this all the time!

Did you remember your driving instructor condoning such activity?


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:27 PM

"Holding it on the clutch" whilst stationary, is one the worst bad driving habits you can have and will lead to premature failure of the clutch thrust bearing and other parts.I don't know how long you have been driving or how many cars you have owned but I would hate to be the garage or subsequent owner of your cars if you have been doing this all the time!
Did you remember your driving instructor condoning such activity?

I know exactly what it does, and I used to do it in my learner car too!
I try not to in the new car, unless it's literally for a few seconds.

However... My hill hold control doesn't seem to work.
Ugh.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:10 PM

The mk7's handbrake only brakes the rear wheels as a conventional one would, also if you do press it whilst driving it jolts the car and turns itself off. As a safety it is utter useless if the brakes fail or you forget to pump the pedal after fitting pads (oooops)

 

Thanks for the correction Speedbump, as I was basing my comments on previous experience with EPB on Passat etc – I've driven Mk 7 but not tested the EBP in extremis in the same way...  It's interesting that they've changed the modus operandi again, maybe because of concerns about the all-wheel braking etc.. ?


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:21 PM

I dont think there's much wrong with the electric handbrake really in the sense of usage if you get used to it, but I used it on a fairly short journey (in a mk7) so cant really say if it becomes an annoyance. It was fine in a tiguan I drove and in both vehicle's the auto hold/hill hold feature was ok, but i think it's a little marmite.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 04:59 PM

Thanks for the correction Speedbump, as I was basing my comments on previous experience with EPB on Passat etc – I've driven Mk 7 but not tested the EBP in extremis in the same way...  It's interesting that they've changed the modus operandi again, maybe because of concerns about the all-wheel braking etc.. ?

 

Interesting to add to this as I've since (recently) driven the Mk 7 Golf 1.6 TDI BlueMotion and a 1.4 SE Golf Estate and had a chance to experiment with the electric (electronic) handbrake and in both cases it behaved exactly as I'd originally described. Pull the flipper switch up and hold it and the brakes come on fully with immense retardation, enough to be considered full-on emergency braking. You have to keep the flipper switch held, of course, rather than just flick it, which is perhaps why Speedbump thought that it just jolts and turns itself off. I also can't see that this can be operating purely on the rear wheels. But, and I stress, that it's not something that you can really explore safely on public roads... use it only when you have to. I can assure you that, even from 60 or 70 mph, it operates extremely powerfully and will stand the car on its nose in no time at all... Be careful to keep a safe distance next time you follow a Mk 7 Golf..!  ;-)


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:58 PM

A point that a lot of people miss about the electric (electronic, actually) parking brake (EPB) is that it is a very effective emergency brake...  unlike a conventional cable handbrake which will have trouble puling a car up at 10 mph, the EPB operates full braking on all four wheels and will pull the car up very powerfully from higher speeds ( I've only tried it from 40-50 mph... ) Now it's questionable whether that will ever really be necessary (some speculate about scenarios where the driver has a heart attack and the passenger has to stop the car etc.. ) But the big thing is to brief your passenger to keep well away from it when you are driving... idle fingers etc...  Imagine the scenario: Passenger thinks 'what does this thing do?' and tugs on the EPB lever while you're driving at 70 mph on the motorway...!

 

Are you sure? I understand the EPB does not function above a set speed for safety reasons.



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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:43 PM

Are you sure? I understand the EPB does not function above a set speed for safety reasons.


Similarly it does not work on the front wheels to the best of my knowledge.
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:19 PM

Mate at work was almost stranded by his brand new Passat CC last week.

 

Opened passenger door, put jacket on passenger seat. Closed door, but not quite.

 

Started car, release electronic parking brake, wouldn't move. MFD just kept saying "Release parking brake" as he tried to pull off.

 

The "door not closed" message was being supressed on the MFD by the 'higher priority' release brake message.

 

We were 30 seconds from calling the AA.

 

Just pure luck we went around the car and noticed the passenger door 4mm from closed.

 

Weird as the MFD didn't show the door being open at all.

 

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:36 PM

http://www.volkswage...c-parking-brake

Says rear brakes only.

City Emergency Braking is all four as per advert:

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 06:02 PM

Mate at work was almost stranded by his brand new Passat CC last week.
 
Opened passenger door, put jacket on passenger seat. Closed door, but not quite.
 
Started car, release electronic parking brake, wouldn't move. MFD just kept saying "Release parking brake" as he tried to pull off.
 
The "door not closed" message was being supressed on the MFD by the 'higher priority' release brake message.
 
We were 30 seconds from calling the AA.
 
Just pure luck we went around the car and noticed the passenger door 4mm from closed.
 
Weird as the MFD didn't show the door being open at all.
 
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If its the same as hyundai, then hold your foot on the brake and it lets you manually release the electronic handbrake, it then would of shown you door ajar warning.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:52 PM

The electro handbrake is awesome - combined with DSG and ACC its like i drive using one finger and one foot ... can easily have a nap in the mean time!







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