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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:46 AM

Just browsing through as ive always wanted one, i see a really nice one on the way to college everyday.


Can anyone explain why there so cheap?


for example...


[link]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201006352124645/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-age/up_to_5_years_old/model/rx8/make/mazda/page/1/postcode/bn176jx/radius/200?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fused%2Fcars%2Fmazda%2Frx8%2Fpostcode%2Fbn176jx%2Fradius%2F200%2Fmaximum-age%2Fup_to_5_years_old%2Fpage%2F1%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc&logcode=p[/link]




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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:49 AM

I may be very wrong as its the RX8 but did the earlier versions not need engine rebuilds around that mileage (not always but mostly)


May be some other reason though.



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:52 AM

erm cause they are crap?



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:53 AM

 really poor MPG?


 



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:53 AM

because you need to be a member of OPEC to run them. They drink oil like nobody's business 


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:56 AM

 


Ive been looking at these also as they look ace but;


High running costs


- Tax & insurance


- low MPG ( around 17 MPG for city driving iirc)


- uses more oil and needs refilling more regularly than the "norm"


They also flooded market and the new models arent much different to the original release (despitea slight facelift). Mazda produced these in high volume so there is plenty to choose from and this has devalued them massively


Original sale price was considerably cheaper than its class rivals which hasnt helped the resale price either



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:56 AM

 MPG + High TAX + oil burning and potential engine rebuilds = no one wants?


this all put me off



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:57 AM

I want one. considering my car is about 7k and i could get one of them for 5500 and they come with 192BHP...


Hmmm another problem would be getting insured im only only been driving 2 years, 1 years NCB



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:59 AM

+ they arent as quick as you would hope considering the amount of fuel they consume.



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:00 AM

I want one. considering my car is about 7k and i could get one of them for 5500 and they come with 192BHP...

Hmmm another problem would be getting insured im only only been driving 2 years, 1 years NCB

They have less toque than your 1.6 though and you have to absolutely thrap the conkers off them to get them moving, they do handle well though! 17-21mpg that's oil and petrol!



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:01 AM

I see, thats a no go then lol, i thought for the price i saw these at there must be problems, and you guys confirmed that... Thanks.


Its just that i saw like 2005 RX8 with like 50k miles, 192BHP for 5500.


when im driving a 2005 golf 34k miles 1.6FSI at like 7k.


Makes you wonder doesnt it



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:11 AM

 ditto the advice above, they drink juice!



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:19 AM

 also, the 192 bhp figure is rumoured to be a myth, if you google it there were people that brought them brand new, stuck them straight on the dyno and got circ. 170 bhp.


and that was from new, not considering the horse that may have escaped over the years



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:20 AM

there only a 1.3 does that have anything to do with it



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:22 AM

Well on the positive they look nice....although i fear that unless youve got money to burn in this credit crunch.... its not a good idea.



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:24 AM

there only a 1.3 does that have anything to do with it

Not really, they are that size as they are wankel engines.



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:25 AM

Yea i seeee, dont really like any other cars at the moment except the MK5 and RX8's.


dont want mine no more lol. Cheers Lads



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

there only a 1.3 does that have anything to do with it

Not really mate.

RX8 have rotary engines (Wankel) so the displacement (cc) isnt relevant in this instance. With these engines there are far less loses (less engine components) in addition to the fact that the combustion chambers create a rotational movement whilst a conventional engine has to convert combustion from a linea movement to rotational.

The rotary engines are quite powerful considering that its a naturally aspirated engine with a small displacement but only do so at high revs.....this is the reason why they drink fuel is because like a motor bike they need to be rev'd (due to the small displacement) to given enough inertia and torque to accellerate. RX8's rev very high and therefore the more fuel is used that the conventional 4 stroke engine. 

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:31 AM

 hey if you like it buy it fella, don,t be put off by us german snobs lol! it would be a dull world if we all liked the same



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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:34 AM

 hey if you like it buy it fella, don,t be put off by us german snobs lol! it would be a dull world if we all liked the same

Haha love that, yea im dreaming abit, well i can afford it just the insurance would be a massive killer, as im only turning 19 in May!

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:51 AM

My mums got a black rx8 pz...and i love it, looks nice, drives well handles well..she loves it despite she doesnt drive it fast..its her second car so its not driven everyday...shes had no problems


 


they do consume alot of oil


tax is about 400 a year


they use alot of fuel


but they are nice cars and are pretty fast..theyre good fun and i hope i get it when im 21..some people will be extremley biased as they prefer vdubs, as do i.


 


ive heard about the engine re build...not as bad as it sounds..just the wankel part gets grounded down and needs either a new one or something


hope this helps


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:59 AM

get an insurance quote and take it from there...



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Posted 05 March 2010 - 11:28 AM

A few guys over on a bike forum have them & are claiming 11mpg at the lowest & never more then 18mph no matter how you drive.


 







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