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Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:09 PM

How about this one, i know it's got high miles but it's a good price

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem

The owner's a sound decent bloke too.


LOL cant get rid of the thing! Sold it and the bloke hasnt been able to collect so he's told me to relist it and he will pay the listing fees, though he is still gonna try and pick it up.


Going to the auction house on Monday though if it dont sell on there.




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Posted 06 May 2006 - 10:15 AM

AND another 1 lol ......in dark blue

1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8 T GTi 3dr Hatchback,

50,000 miles, 1999 s reg, 3 door,50'000 miles with full service
history with 4 stamps and next service not due until jan 07,mot until
sept 06 and tax until july 06, climate control, air con, recaro
interior, trip and mpg computer,16" alloys,very good condition and any
inspection welcome, hpi clear. 4,995. ono

 





Well im going down to leeds to have a look at this sometime during next week or at the weekend!



Seems a sound bloke, his 18T before that was lovely aswell.



One thing thats sorta stood out...



It's officially had 6 owners but one was trade and there was a case
where a lad bought the car, registerd in his name, then re-registered
it in his mams name for insurance...this seems believalbe enough really
but 6 still seems high, he's also mentioned that it's currently under
his traders policy so he will not count as an owner...is this OK?



Also the car was bought in 1999 but not serviced until 2003, at 16.5k
miles....again, should that be something I should be weary of?



Before i make the trip I will get an hpi check done of course!



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Posted 06 May 2006 - 10:44 AM

i bought my 01 X reg AUM 1.8T for 5200, 8 months ago with 58k miles on the clock



absolute bargain. hpi all checked out fine.





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Posted 06 May 2006 - 11:10 AM

I would have thought that car should have been serviced at least twice in 16.500 miles, I'm sure there is a time limit to servicing



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Posted 06 May 2006 - 01:56 PM

hm i thought that aswell mind, but my dad was saying that it can be up to 20k miles before its due?



Its got 4 stamps in the book, non vw.



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Posted 06 May 2006 - 02:09 PM

It should be serviced every 10,000 miles or every year, whichever is first. It wouldnt have been on longlife at that age. So missing a big service history there really, roughly 3 stamps.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:09 AM

As far as I am aware, the 20k service interval is only on mk5s, which are on a variable service interval.


Pretty sure the Mk4 should be serviced every 10k (or poss 12k) or once a year, depending on which is first.



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:14 AM

It should be serviced every 10,000 miles or every year, whichever is first. It wouldnt have been on longlife at that age. So missing a big service history there really, roughly 3 stamps.


 


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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:41 AM

I bought my 02 plate, 1.8T 5dr GTi for 6.4k with 45k on it. It has the standard VW sport interior and just normal A/C but it came with rear parking sensors from factory, which i never thought u could get.


The timing belt needed doing though but wasn't too much of a problem as my bro inlaw is a mechanic and he did it for me on his day off. Other than that it had Full history from either VW or VW specialists.


I dunno from reading what people are writing i'm thinking i got a good deal? Did i?



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:01 AM

It should be serviced every 10,000 miles or every year, whichever is first. It wouldnt have been on longlife at that age. So missing a big service history there really, roughly 3 stamps.


So if i take this to mean that it wasnt serviced for 3 years....would you think I would be better off not going for it? The 50k miles is a real selling point for me, but the service gap is perhaps a bit off putting.


The guy seems to have been very up front and has provided photos for everything I have asked for and has at least been honest with all the questions I have had about the car.


Leeds isnt that far from Newcastle but its far enough to go if you are going to come back empty handed...


Just not sure!



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:15 AM

It should be serviced every 10,000 miles or every year, whichever is first. It wouldnt have been on longlife at that age. So missing a big service history there really, roughly 3 stamps.


So if i take this to mean that it wasnt serviced for 3 years....would you think I would be better off not going for it? The 50k miles is a real selling point for me, but the service gap is perhaps a bit off putting.


The guy seems to have been very up front and has provided photos for everything I have asked for and has at least been honest with all the questions I have had about the car.


Leeds isnt that far from Newcastle but its far enough to go if you are going to come back empty handed...


Just not sure!



I've said it 1 thousand times on this board. Mileage does not mean jack.


What you have here is a car that has not been cared for, you can tell a mile off. No service history means they havent bothered to service it, thats called not bothering looking after it.


Might be low mileage, but not been looked after. Your better off going for one with 150k on thats been properly looked after. Stop thinking mileage is the be all and end all and you will find a much better car.



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:34 AM

I've said it 1 thousand times on this board. Mileage does not mean jack.


What you have here is a car that has not been cared for, you can tell a mile off. No service history means they havent bothered to service it, thats called not bothering looking after it.


Might be low mileage, but not been looked after. Your better off going for one with 150k on thats been properly looked after. Stop thinking mileage is the be all and end all and you will find a much better car.



It doesnt have no service history, but it only has it from 03 onwards (4 stamps) but I see your point and thats fair enough. You can often tell if a car isnt looked after by looking at it, this particular car is immaculate from the pics i have seen, inside and out.


Mileage may not be the be all and end all, but i dont really want a car with over 75k on the clock. There are cars out there that have been very well looked after that still have miles within the range I am looking at, sadly they are all miles away from me. My dad, for example, sold his immaculate 1999 gti a year or so ago with 72k on the clock and got 5.5k for it...so they are out there somewhere!


My current car has 136000 miles on the clock, it has FULL service history and has been well looked after but it's by no means perfect. Far from it - granted, they are little things, but there are a few of them..


I also want a car that I can expect to be able to sell on with relative ease. It is not uncommon for people to be bothered by high miles, so buying a high mileage car could also vastly reduce my re-sell value (and the market!) by the time i am finished with it.


 


 



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:46 AM

I compleatly agree with what W36 EJO is saying. But everyone wants the perfect car. Hate to gloat but i think iv found mine [:D] 1999 1.8t with 43k, outstanding condition, full service history, and lether heated interior. Going to view tonight. Wish me luck.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:52 AM

I compleatly agree with what W36 EJO is saying. But everyone wants the perfect car. Hate to gloat but i think iv found mine [:D] 1999 1.8t with 43k, outstanding condition, full service history, and lether heated interior. Going to view tonight. Wish me luck.


Price?


Good luck (*COUGH*git*COUGH*) lol [:P]



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:02 AM

Would be useful if i had told you that wudnt it! but nooooo im a t1t. [:$]


 


He wants 5,200. I rekon hel drop to 5,100 at least tho.


This is the description on auto trader:


1999 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8 T GTi 5dr Hatchback,


43,000 miles, V Reg. Metallic Silver, Black Leather Recaro Heated Seats, Sun Roof, Air Conditioning, Alloys, Top Stereo, Full Service History, MOT April 2007, ABS, PAS, Electric Windows, Airbags, Body Coloured Bumpers, Remote Central Locking. Outstanding Condition. 5,250



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:07 AM

Sounds like a great deal!


Where abouts is that?


Unheard of in Newcastle lol.



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:12 AM

Croydon. 39 miles from me. Not to far to travel if its as good as it looks. I found a really nice one in liverpool but they wanted 7k for it. I cant wait till i get my golf. Getting more and more depressed with the corsa im having to put up with at the momment!



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:12 AM

Yes, what I'm saying is it can look immaculate, dont mean it is.


As for the mileage, fair point about the resale value, but you are paying more in the first place for that privilige, so don't really work that way. A higher mileage car will be cheaper to buy now and you will get less for it later, depending on the mileage you do now. So it all works out the same in the end. I am in no way saying go to get a higher mileage car, I'm just saying your better off with one with FSH and high miles than low miles and part service history, missing a big chunk.


As for the car above, it will be harder to shift with all that missing service history than the same car with much higher miles with FSH.


Mileage is just a number. Theres so many other factors that contribute to that one factor. Would you buy a taxi that had done 50k miles or a fleet car that had done 100k miles on the motorway? Taxi means stop start constantly, fleet car means constant fifth gear crusing.


As for the one you mention, I personally would either forget about it, or use the missing service history as a bargaining point, remembering your gonna have trouble shifting it.


Me personally, I would walk away, especially as you seem so intent on getting the absolute best for 5k. That's far from it.


Also worth pointing out that your paying a premium for a car with just under 60k and an older car at that. BUT, your going to have to fork out for it's biggest service, including cambelt and waterpump very very soon, so put that into your costings.


To give an idea, looking through my service history, the 60k service cost 816 at VW. Eek.


Over 60k that should have been done, say at 70k, and the car should also be a bit cheaper. It's a no brainer in my books.



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:21 AM

Yes, what I'm saying is it can look immaculate, dont mean it is.


As for the mileage, fair point about the resale value, but you are paying more in the first place for that privilige, so don't really work that way. A higher mileage car will be cheaper to buy now and you will get less for it later, depending on the mileage you do now. So it all works out the same in the end. I am in no way saying go to get a higher mileage car, I'm just saying your better off with one with FSH and high miles than low miles and part service history, missing a big chunk.


As for the car above, it will be harder to shift with all that missing service history than the same car with much higher miles with FSH.


Mileage is just a number. Theres so many other factors that contribute to that one factor. Would you buy a taxi that had done 50k miles or a fleet car that had done 100k miles on the motorway? Taxi means stop start constantly, fleet car means constant fifth gear crusing.


As for the one you mention, I personally would either forget about it, or use the missing service history as a bargaining point, remembering your gonna have trouble shifting it.


Me personally, I would walk away, especially as you seem so intent on getting the absolute best for 5k. That's far from it.


Also worth pointing out that your paying a premium for a car with just under 60k and an older car at that. BUT, your going to have to fork out for it's biggest service, including cambelt and waterpump very very soon, so put that into your costings.


To give an idea, looking through my service history, the 60k service cost 816 at VW. Eek.


Over 60k that should have been done, say at 70k, and the car should also be a bit cheaper. It's a no brainer in my books.



 


BOW DOWN TO THE ALMIGHTY W36 EJO.


 


This guy knows hes stuff! I know who im gunna be asking if i need help! lol



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:24 AM

Just trying to offer advice, take the pee all you like.


Its easy when your an outsider though, know what its like when you have your heart set on a car.



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:33 AM

Sorry if that sounded sarcastic mate. I was being serious [:$]. 7,005 posts and all the ones iv seen have been informative. Your giving great advice mate. Keep it up.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:36 AM

Sorry if that sounded sarcastic mate. I was being serious [:$]. 7,005 posts and all the ones iv seen have been informative. Your giving great advice mate. Keep it up.


Ahh ok, my bad for getting on the defensive!


You haven't seen some of my other topics though, only 34 of my posts have been informative! [;)] Most others have been about girls [:D]



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:41 AM

But im sure your informative about girls aswell? [;)] Im off to find those threads now! lol.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:50 AM

But im sure your informative about girls aswell? [;)] Im off to find those threads now! lol.


They normally end up deleted [:D]



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:11 AM

i picked up my golf 1.8T for 3750pounds in mint condition, plus the colours black[:D].  i bought it off this women who had bought it from new, it had full stamped vw service history aswell.  but its got 93,000 miles on the clock and it drives faultless.  think i got a real bargain.


for  5 grand you should get a minter mate. 



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Posted 08 May 2006 - 01:40 PM

Yes, what I'm saying is it can look immaculate, dont mean it is.

As for the mileage, fair point about the resale value, but you are
paying more in the first place for that privilige, so don't really work
that way. A higher mileage car will be cheaper to buy now and you will
get less for it later, depending on the mileage you do now. So it all
works out the same in the end. I am in no way saying go to get a higher
mileage car, I'm just saying your better off with one with FSH and high
miles than low miles and part service history, missing a big chunk.

As for the car above, it will be harder to shift with all that
missing service history than the same car with much higher miles with
FSH.

Mileage is just a number. Theres so many other factors that
contribute to that one factor. Would you buy a taxi that had done 50k
miles or a fleet car that had done 100k miles on the motorway? Taxi
means stop start constantly, fleet car means constant fifth gear
crusing.

As for the one you mention, I personally would either forget about
it, or use the missing service history as a bargaining point,
remembering your gonna have trouble shifting it.

Me personally, I would walk away, especially as you seem so intent on getting the absolute best for 5k. That's far from it.

Also worth pointing out that your paying a premium for a car with
just under 60k and an older car at that. BUT, your going to have to
fork out for it's biggest service, including cambelt and waterpump very
very soon, so put that into your costings.

To give an idea, looking through my service history, the 60k service cost 816 at VW. Eek.

Over 60k that should have been done, say at 70k, and the car should also be a bit cheaper. It's a no brainer in my books.





To be fair, yeah, you are right.



I'm starting to realise that im not gona get it all, low miles AND mint
condition AND Loads of history, and the more i think about it, the more
I think it makes sense to forget about miles IF it can be supported
with loads of reciepts and service history.



Just had a look at one 2nite, 70k miles...body work was a bit tatty,
not had its proper 60k sevice (although did have fvwsh), and needs a
new wing mirror (incidentally one i looked at last week almost exactly
the same!!), another let down!



There is a member of this forum selling a gorgeous one, it has 103k,
but ive just read the list of whats been done, and it has fsh with
reciepts for all sorts....major service already done, etc...and you can
deffo see that its been very well looked after. Also could save me
money as its already lowered, and already remapped.....so im gona have
a proper serious think about it...



I think as you say, a mint car with higher miles is bound to be better
than a low mile example thats been poorly maintained, or cant offer
proof etc..



One may come along, but I would doubt one with as good spec and as good condition as the 103k one i may think about....



Thanks for the advice, all taken on board.


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Posted 09 May 2006 - 02:34 AM

No probs, just make sure the price your paying for the 103k one is reflected by the mileage, as you would expect a 50k one to be.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 06:55 AM

well after much deliberation i decided that i am still going to look for one with lower miles!


Seen one with just 29k on the clock (obviously i would have to get that HPI'd!), 2 owners from new and FSH....and it looks immaculate...going to take a look 2nite....will see what its like.



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Posted 17 May 2006 - 07:02 AM

Price age and spec?

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 08:54 AM

Well, this just isnt meant to be...car already sold. Within the first day of advertising. Gutted!


From auto trader:


1999VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1.8 T GTi 3dr Hatchback, 29,000 miles, green, ABS, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Body coloured bumpers, Central locking.full service history.one previous owner.recaro seats,immaculate condition


was asking 5.9k, reckong it would have went for 5.5k ish, looked immaculate from the pics.


yet another kick up the arse.


Not only does it have the rare low miles, but it was also only 7 miles from me!


How can i be so unlucky!!


Im off to my local vauxhall dealer [;)] [:'(]







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