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#31 Chris.

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 08:11 AM

What a tool.  Tell him to jog on.


Suprised he isnt asking you to cover the petrol costs of it tbh!


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Posted 27 February 2011 - 08:23 AM

I would say a classic case of caveat emptor but I suspect the problems he is experiencing now are self inflicted. I would simply respond with a letter saying the car was, as he has already agreed, sold as seen and you will not be entering into any further correspondence. He is not going to hire a solicitor because he probably doesn't have two pennies to rub together having blown it on an M3 he couldn't afford.



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 09:25 AM

Hes allready ripping you off by making you waste your time worrying.


Tell him to flip off, and to continue with his legal action against you (which he has no intention of taking).


The guys either a scammer or a total muppet whos just destroyed a car in a few days by his pathetic driving.


Once they realise their plan isnt working ...... they will move on.


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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:04 AM

if someone buys a car having inspected it, driven it, negotiated a price on it and driven it away having paid cash then the very second it goes from your posession it's the buyer's problem.


 


There are private sellers out there that (very reasonably) would take a car back on the same/next day if a major issue cropped up as they would be horrified to see someobody else losing out - but these types of sellers are in the minority (and rightly so for a private sale).


18 days later means the buyer has had nearly 3 weeks to rape, pillage and destroy any part of the mechanical setup of the car, you have no idea how it's been treated and they have absolutely nothing to come back at you with.


 


You sold a car.  They bought a car that either (a) wasn't inspected properly or (B) has been thrashed to death without the correct inspection/care.


 


I admire your personal worry about the situation - I don't mean that I think it's a good thing that you are concerned - but it shows part of what being a genuine seller is all about.  If the buyer makes contact again, politely explain that this is their problem and that you don't have anything else to say to them.


Don't let it bother you, you have no issues with this [Y]



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:12 AM

 exact same thing happened to my dad pritty much. sold his mk2 escort to some guy who had been test drove it and was happy with it so bought it, then he phoned saying it didnt have the brake horse power he said and other things so threatened him with legal action. long story short the guy was a idiot and didnt do anything, couple of weeks later crashed the car.... obviously it had to much bhp for him haha



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:18 AM

Be honest.... I bet he was  a bit of a young wannabe Gangsta type  thinking the M3 would give him some form of street "riiiiiiiispect" !! 


 


send him a christmas card every year !



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 10:19 AM

Hahaha Luke.....Quality.


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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:31 AM

 As was said already he has had the car for 18 days in that time you can do a lot of damage to that car , as for the clutch being shot surely he would have noticed that when you drove the car hard not only did you drive it but he did aswell.


you have nothing to worry about as the car was sold as seen he must have been happy to part with his money , keeping a second receipt would have been a good idea mate but to be honest he dont have a leg to stand on as you sold the car fit for purpose .



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 11:39 AM

 stuff the guy he paid you the money and drove it away so he must have been happy with it at the time, you dont need to worry mate you did nothing wrong [Y]



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:07 PM

It's a used car, key term USED which many private buyers looking for a bargain confuse with new no faults and inclusive of unlimited warranty.


You could say it's a lottery when buying a used car but as your story goes you appear to have done everything above board in favour of the bloke (e.g. test driving hard). He can't possibly come back after nearly 3 weeks and start with this nonsense. Tell him to bring on the legal action it'll be great to see him laughed out if it even gets to him picking up the phone and carrying out what he threatens to do!



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:16 PM

tell him "dils" has a good condition Vanos  for sale, those 2 will get on like a house of fire !!



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:20 PM

Assume he is recording phone calls so be carefull what you say



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 01:42 PM

why?


 


He will never ever be allowed to use them as evidence . Unless he has informed you that he is recording etc . Courts/police take this offense seriously 


 


 



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 01:56 PM

Get drunk, drive round to his place with some drunk mates, torch the Beemer, drive off laughing. End of problem, and good fun too. Allegedly........

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 02:17 PM

if someone buys a car having inspected it, driven it, negotiated a price on it and driven it away having paid cash then the very second it goes from your posession it's the buyer's problem.

 

There are private sellers out there that (very reasonably) would take a car back on the same/next day if a major issue cropped up as they would be horrified to see someobody else losing out - but these types of sellers are in the minority (and rightly so for a private sale).

18 days later means the buyer has had nearly 3 weeks to rape, pillage and destroy any part of the mechanical setup of the car, you have no idea how it's been treated and they have absolutely nothing to come back at you with.

  X2 , could not have put it better myself,have been in the same position as you and have lost sleep. if the car was sold as seen,no gaurantee implied or given you have done anything wrong.big hand to you tho for having a conscience.

You sold a car.  They bought a car that either (a) wasn't inspected properly or (B) has been thrashed to death without the correct inspection/care.

 

I admire your personal worry about the situation - I don't mean that I think it's a good thing that you are concerned - but it shows part of what being a genuine seller is all about.  If the buyer makes contact again, politely explain that this is their problem and that you don't have anything else to say to them.

Don't let it bother you, you have no issues with this Yes



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 03:48 PM

Get drunk, drive round to his place with some drunk mates, torch the Beemer, drive off laughing. End of problem, and good fun too. Allegedly........

 

Why drunk...?

dangerous to be drunk and in charge of petrol etc 

 

Elf and safety etc [H]



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 04:55 PM

iam sorry to hear your problem


i had a similar issue but i was the buyer. I brought a car from wales and theres a post about it somewhere in hear anyway.....the day after i brought it the esp light kept on coming on and off and like a jerky feeling with the breaks etc. Basically cost 400* post to fix i did get the money back off the guy for it. As it did happen the day after. I did seek legal action as iam covered under my home insurance this guy might be too ( so beware of this)> Obviously in my case the garage i took it to for repairs said the buyer would have know this problem before it sold so it was in my favour and i kept the offending parts etc to prove my case. Howerever 3 weeks is along time, he could have swap the parts etc. But yes dont engage in phone calls keep all things written email etc. Ask him to provide evidence etc, deal with it as if it is a issue ( dont ignore it) but dont stress about it. Gather your evidence and proff etc so you cover your back. phone calls cannot be used in court so dont worry


 


this may be a useful link


 


http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/buying_second_hand_vehicles.htm#you_bought_the_vehicle_from_a_private_seller


 


but remember i only had a leg to stand on as the fault developed 24 hours after i brought it and it was exsisting and i could prove it...3 weeks is along time dont be bullied by him.



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Posted 28 February 2011 - 03:25 AM

Keep all records of where he said he was trying to get the M3 sideways etc .  proof he had been driving it Hounslow style



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Posted 09 March 2011 - 12:42 PM

Just so you all know I've not heard anymore since the original 'you'll hear from my solicitor' phone call...... chancer comes to mind!


But thanks for your response's at the time, always thought I had nothing to worry about but you never know!



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Posted 09 March 2011 - 12:52 PM

make sure u keep all his text emails and pictures he sent you! just incase he decides to be nob he is 



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Posted 05 April 2011 - 10:45 AM

Had this happen to me and the guy threatened to take me to court after only contacting me over 3 weeks of him driving the car away. I told him where to go pretty much and that was the last I heard of him...


I heard people do this and take the good parts of your car and swap them for the broken parts on theirs and then complain saying this and that is faulty. [:@]



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Posted 05 April 2011 - 03:04 PM

I bought a car off a dealer with a load of problems that weren't made apparent to me when I bought it and we're now in the middle of court proceedings.


Luckily for you though there's no such responsibility from private sellers, so I wouldn't worry about it!



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Posted 06 April 2011 - 07:06 AM

 mate i would of paid good money to see his solicitor laugh down the phone to him, not got a leg to stand on, we are seeing it from the 3rd person view! he even admitted hes had a play with it no doubt riding the clutch on limiter etc. blatantly a plank buying a car too powerful for his driving experience... i remember wanting a car like that few years ago but now ive matured (a bit) i know i would of just raged it and raged it without ever maintaining it or even worse wrapped it round a lampost. dont worry bud! 



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Posted 06 April 2011 - 07:27 AM

The bloke is a 'Chancer' playing on the fact that you might not know your rights



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Posted 06 April 2011 - 07:35 AM

Sold as seen mate, don't stress about it. Car's can play up at anytime. also being an M3 you know the guys going to drive it hard. Blame it on his style of driving.


I wouldn't worry about it. also any form of communication should be done in writing.


all the best mate.



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Posted 06 April 2011 - 08:09 AM

 hes not got a chance...especially if you keep the email/text from him, saying he "lost" the sold as seen reciept, that proves there was a sold as seen agreement at the time of purchase



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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:11 AM

Any update?



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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:17 AM

hes probly a street racer,, floored the car and pushed it to the limit.. now he broke it n blaming U? nahhh


its his fault now



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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:08 AM

Am i reading this right? Some guy buys your car rags the hell out of it and admits he did it then expects you to pay for it? firstly why did he admit it (idiot) and secondly surely within the first week he would of noticed something odd.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:16 PM

 Guy got nothing to stand on. Private sale is private sale. You mate is not a mechanic (i assume lol) so how can he know all these things are wrong in the first place? Rebuilt vanos cost something like 300 iirc. Fair do's it's double vanos unit, so 600... so that would suggest 1400 in labour?yeah right....







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