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#1 leeabr101

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:20 AM

Ok, soni cutrently have a mk6 2.0tdi. Really nice car but i want a newer one so looking at a mk7.
Im probably not doing the mileage for a diesel anymore as the dpf light comes on every sonoften on my mk6 so looking at a petrol.
Id really like a GTI but not sure I can afford one and a GTD just gives me the same DPF worries so whats the next one down? Are there any known issues with mk7s as yet?
My MIL has just bought a 90bhp polo tsi which to be far feels pretty quick but I would fancy a golf and 90bhp would not cut it!


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:05 PM

Why don't you just delete the dpf. There are plenty of tuning companies that can do it. Solves the problem.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 03:12 PM

Why don't you just delete the dpf. There are plenty of tuning companies that can do it. Solves the problem.


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Because then it will fail the MOT, if they look for a DPF canister and its not there.


 

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 03:22 PM

Because then it will fail the MOT, if they look for a DPF canister and its not there.

 

We all know the solution to this.   :whistle:


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 09:10 AM

I would prefer to get a newer car than start removing bits etc

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:21 AM

Even if it helps the engine?


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:39 AM

Ignore comments on DPF deletes, who wants to buy a MK7 and start chopping it up..

Diesel engines are unnecessary now imo, unless your up and down the country all the time. new petrols are so economical without dpf/egr issues. diesels aren't for doing short journeys

 

I think they do a 2.0 tsi that isn't a GTI if your not worried about top spec.

I may be wrong on the other 2.0 model but the 1.4TSi with 150hp should be plenty :)

 

I'd personally (if I had the money) keep and eye out for a good used GTI (with performance pack). Its worth the extra money.



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 10:37 PM

I have a mk6 2.0TDI(140), and I want a petrol mk7 eventually too.

Regarding petrol engines only:

I have noticed the same as you, the Goff mk7 is available with a puny 1.4 engine which is well stressed to squeeze out anything from 90 to 150bhp, or the very powerful 2.0GTI with 217 or 227BHP.  Which isn't everybodys cup of tea.

There is nothing in between!

I don't really like the idea of a 1.4, and even it is is turbo and gives 140bhp or what ever.

I agree, a golf needs more than 90BHP!  A lot more.

The golf and polo seem to share the same range of petrol engine sizes, neither goes above 1.4 (excpet the GTI)

I do think there is a 1.5 golf, but that is still small.  Why do a 1.5, when there is already a 1.4?  pointless.  Should have made a 1.6 or better a 1.8.

I would like a mk7 2.0, but I think they are all GTI - well that was the impression I got when I was looking on auto trader the other day.

 

Whey isn't there a 1.6 or 1.8?



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:57 PM

Why are people stressed about a 1.4 producing 150bhp?

 

Pro-rata my old mk4 1.8T is running 178bhp if it was 1.4.

 

I think the 1.6-1.8 litre engines are missing because they are heavier and just aren't necessary.

 

Small engines and small turbos are nice torque wise.

 

Even Ford get 125bhp from a 3 cylinder 1l.

 

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#10 Ian_TDI

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 09:28 AM

it just doesn't seem right having a little 1.4 engine in a Golf that weighs 1.5 tons, and no bigger engine available apart from GTI

The Polo also has a maximum engine size of 1.4, and they only weighs 1.2 tones.

 

100BHP per litre is very comon these days.  I just think it is putting stress on a small engine.  But may be I am old fashioned!

My 2.0 diesel gives 140 and that seems a more comfortable cc:bhp ratio.



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:27 AM

The GTE and plug-in-hybrid options look quite nice and they sit in the middle of the range in terms of performance.



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:17 PM

Yes, they are nice - but still too expensive for me.

And if I go electric, then I'd want to go all the way (without any petrol engine), so that means the Golf E which is even more expensive.

And I still don't like the idea of a car that is limited to less than a 100mph.

Not because I want to go more than a hundred, but sometimes you need that extra speed to get past something safely.

I'd hate to be in the middle of an ovetaking procedure and feel the car cut out as the speed gets to 93mph.

I am not a wreckless of dangerous driver, and I think before I begin to overtake anything (so don't anybody start on that one please!)

But I'd like a car that has more speed than I will ever need for any occasion.

I know the electric cars are speed limited to get the most milage per charge, but I'd like to decide if and when I want that level of economy, and overtaking another car is not the best time for econominc batter consumption.

Petrol and diesles don't have speed restrictions and they suffer from the speed -v- consumption fall-off too.

So I think I'll be sticking with my mk6 2.0 TDI for the time being then!



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:00 PM

Just get the GTI and enjoy 26mpg all the time...


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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:46 PM

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The motor in a Tesla is the size of a water melon and that hits 60 in less than 3 seconds, technology moves on (although I'm not a subscriber to the popular belief that the electric car will save the world).

 

The 1.6 and 1.8 are dead ends (and probably just marketing gimmicks all along), somebody invented the bellows in the 5th century BC, it's just taken car makers a while to catch up although its in their interest to slowly increment technology each year rather than jump straight to the best solution.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 12:26 PM

The all-electric Tesla with amazing performance has been around for a few years now, yet all the other electric only cars (may be a few extreme exceptions) have very poor performaance.  Why don't they just build electric cars to match the perfomance of the petol cars.  it is not fair to cap the top speed in favour of milage between recharges.  They don't cap the speed of petrol engines just to get more miles out of a tank, the driver has the choice how to drive and how much fuel to use.  They should do the same with electrics.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:22 PM

@Ian_TDI

The motor in a Tesla is the size of a water melon and that hits 60 in less than 3 seconds, technology moves on (although I'm not a subscriber to the popular belief that the electric car will save the world).

The 1.6 and 1.8 are dead ends (and probably just marketing gimmicks all along), somebody invented the bellows in the 5th century BC, it's just taken car makers a while to catch up although its in their interest to slowly increment technology each year rather than jump straight to the best solution.

Its not the size of the motor thats the issue but the motor and power source together that matters and the current limiting factor is energy storage.

Current battery technology just cannot compete against the simple cheap technology of a tank of petrol diesel or liquid gas

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:22 PM

@Ian_TDI

The motor in a Tesla is the size of a water melon and that hits 60 in less than 3 seconds, technology moves on (although I'm not a subscriber to the popular belief that the electric car will save the world).

The 1.6 and 1.8 are dead ends (and probably just marketing gimmicks all along), somebody invented the bellows in the 5th century BC, it's just taken car makers a while to catch up although its in their interest to slowly increment technology each year rather than jump straight to the best solution.

Its not the size of the motor thats the issue but the motor and power source together that matters and the current limiting factor is energy storage.

Current battery technology just cannot compete against the simple cheap technology of a tank of petrol diesel or liquid gas

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