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#1 MonK-E

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 12:23 PM

SKIP TO PAGE 8 FOR THE BEGINING OF THE COMPOUND PROJECT.

PAGE 27 for start up

PAGE 29 for swapping from compound turbo to Twincharger setup

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Yeah here we go again. After a short break with nothing to do with cars for a while I have felt a bit lost. Even with a little Kawasaki track bike project on the go at the same time. I keep looking at the couple of 1.8t engines I have laying about in bits and thinking I really need to do something with them. Call it mechanical OCD or what ever I keep comming back to them.
So I have decided to start up another project and do something with at least one of them.
I wanted to really plan this one out so I don't go off track with crazy ideas and don't properly finish it like previously.
However I haven't really done much planning, just a rough idea of doing something simple and not extreme. So far I'm thinking of a little internally gated gtx2867r on a 1.8t, or a bbt k360. Then slinging it in a cheap Mk4 based beetle or something.

All I really know is it'll be over a long period and I'll start with the engine.

So a little recap on what I have previously done to the head.
I got this engine that had come out of a AWD skoda that had only done about 50k miles, pulled it all apart and cleaned up the head. Then ported it a little.


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So on to what I have done today.
I pulled the head out from under the bench and spent a fair while cleaning it up again. It was full of dust drill swarf and what not. Once the head was cleaned, I gathered up my valve lapping stuff and made a start on lapping in the cleaned up standard valves.


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After a bit of caveman fire starting technique, I had a nice dull grey band around the whole valve seat and valve head

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That's one done, just another 19 to go hahaha

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Then after a fair while a few more were done :D

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That'll be it for today I think :P
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 12:46 PM

Good to see you back Si


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 01:12 PM

Welcome back. Good to see you playing with the oily bits.
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Just a stock diesel Anni................well almost  :new-chuckle:

 

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 01:30 PM

Think, you'll make this, time will pass and then you'll need something again. Why mess in the little league, go hard or go home. Old beetle fe rwd wide ass like I suggested before. Come on. Do it. Then I could copy paste


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:55 PM

Cheers guys :) :Y:


@TomasLT hahaha it's not about "messing with the little league" or going hard. It's purely about making a fun little turbo car at a reasonable price with me doing all the work myself.



Any way I lied and done a bit more ;)


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 04:11 PM

Hooray for more build threads! Looks good so far, looking forward to seeing where this goes :)
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:48 PM

Good to see you back on it... just finish it this time around and keep it for fun ;)
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:19 PM

YES !!!!  :D


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 07:06 AM

Welcome back :)

Straight into head work too, nicely done!


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:42 AM

Somehow i was sure this was going to happen :)

welcome back!


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Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:54 AM

Well would be engine work now wouldn't it because no project car yet
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 09:51 AM

I can't wait for a nice little MK4 turbo beetle... :P


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:50 PM

It's all going to be engine work for the time being. Plans so far is to build the engine, turbo and gearbox first. Space to work is at a premium at the moment. So doing by doing it this way by the time I have finished the above, other projects will be done and out the way, giving me space to pick up a cheap beetle and concentrate on a chassis.
I still have to decide on if I'm going to use a 2.0 5 speed box with short final drive or that monstrosity of a awd 6 speed box yet.

Either way a moderate 350-400bhp in a beetle is going to be good giggles

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:54 PM

Don't forget to fit it with some NOx a healthy 100 bhp wet setup for the evil laughs
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:06 PM

Don't forget to fit it with some NOx a healthy 100 bhp wet setup for the evil laughs


Hahahaha. now now, we have talked about this. Simple stage project to be completed first (without getting side tracked and letting things get out of hand). However after it is complete, I'm certainly not discounting the idea of adding a little whiff of giggle gas
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:55 PM

I just made sure you didn't forget about some laughter at the flip of a button lol
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:17 PM

All I can say at the moment it's a possibility once every is up and running. However it won't be in any way part of the initial build.
It's far to easy for me to go crazy and get too involved with trying to do everything at once, then run out of cash and motivation.
I still have a rear complete TT rear subframe and haldex I could do something with. But realistically it's not even going to enter into my head on this build. Unless I some how find new premises to live with a barn and a ramp ;)



I did manage to do a bit more this evening. All the valves are lapped in, just waiting for valve stem seals to turn up (should be Monday)
So this weekend I'll probably take another look at the block and possibly decide whether to use the pistons that are in it or the set of AGU ones I have laying about.

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:25 PM

You misunderstood me. Nevermind, carry on


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:58 PM

You misunderstood me. Nevermind, carry on
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:) quite possibly bud

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:07 PM

Got a cheap TT roadster for sale if u fancy using the spare bits you have

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:19 PM

Got a cheap TT roadster for sale if u fancy using the spare bits you have


Thanks for the offer bud, but I think I'm pretty set on adding some funk to a beetle

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:20 PM

Thanks for the offer bud, but I think I'm pretty set on adding some funk to a beetle


No worries I look forward to seeing it

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:22 PM

Man I'm terrible at making my mind up. Just been having second thoughts about a beetle. I've been looking about and cupra r's are getting to a much more sensible price now.
Might see if I can find one with a dead engine or some seriously high miles.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:44 PM

But that's normal? What do they weight? Bug and seat?


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:28 PM

It's normal for me, not sure about everyone else haha.

According to parkers
The bug is 1383kg
The cupra r is 1376kg

Which makes no sense as the cupra r is 9kg lighter but has a 6 speed box, bigger brakes and 2 extra doors?

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:40 PM

Forget fwd go 4wd to get the power down

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:05 PM

They were made lighter as they used more aluminium in the bodywork

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 04:44 AM

Forget fwd go 4wd to get the power down


I have thought about it, but considering the moderate power I'm aiming for. It would horribly destroy the (lets face it all ready no great) power to weight ratio by adding another 100kg.

Besides I used to have a 300bhp golf. Generally speaking it costs a good 50bhp to run 4wd due to weight and drivetrain loss.
If I only manage 350bhp it makes me no better off than my original golf. 4wd is really for the 400+ crowd even then that's debatable imo

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 04:49 AM

They were made lighter as they used more aluminium in the bodywork


Please tell me they have aluminium wings I'd be instantly sold on one by that alone lol

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:47 AM

Man I'm terrible at making my mind up. Just been having second thoughts about a beetle. I've been looking about and cupra r's are getting to a much more sensible price now.
Might see if I can find one with a dead engine or some seriously high miles.

Plenty of people mod Cupras... I've yet to see a 300+ new MK3 Beetle :P


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