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#1 tsl_wales

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 06:25 AM

Im now starting to look into getting a new car as i think its time for a change. I dont really do a huge amount of mileage so im thinking about going back to a petrol.


Was thinking of either a Golf Mk4 R32, Mk5 R32 or Ed30.


Im favouring the Mk5 R32 and if i got an early 2005/2006 model the tax is £260 for the year.


Just wondering what peoples opinions were?


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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:14 AM

Probably looking at spending about £12k maybe a little bit more for the right one. Is it best to get one with the DSG?


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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:21 AM

IMO they are 3 very different looking cars... you must have a preference based purely on what your eyes are telling you.


 

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:26 AM

mk5 r32s are very nice and you will never get tired of the v6 sound


ed30s map better than the r32s i belive but i still think the r's are the way forward



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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:26 AM

Im quite liking the Mk5 R32 and have seen a few nice 2007 ones for around £14k


I have been looking at the tax bands and there seems to be a few different ones.


18th Nov 2005 - 23rd March 2006 = £260 per year, 23rd March 2006 - 1st Jan 2007 = £460 per year, 1st Jan 2007 - 1st July 2007 = £445 per year, 1st July 2007 - 31st July 2008 = £460 per year.


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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:29 AM

Dare i say the words, If i get one i wont be looking at modifying it much. Maybe some new wheels and a few little personal touches here and there.


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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:31 AM

Im quite liking this: http://www.pistonhea...les/2808397.htm


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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:38 AM

Looks tidy... trying DSG is a must, because you might hate it!


 

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:39 AM

I think a trip to the local VW dealer is in order to test drive some motors.


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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:46 AM

Grey Rs ftw



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Posted 31 May 2011 - 06:21 PM

Im now starting to look into getting a new car as i think its time for a change. I dont really do a huge amount of mileage so im thinking about going back to a petrol.

Was thinking of either a Golf Mk4 R32, Mk5 R32 or Ed30.

Im favouring the Mk5 R32 and if i got an early 2005/2006 model the tax is £260 for the year.

Just wondering what peoples opinions were?

 

Mk4 R32 is the most raw,  bumpy,  dare I say it rewarding and most exciting to drive when the conditions allow

mk5 R32 is much more grown up.  Better everyday car than the mk4, because it's much softer all round,  but also it's more dynamically capable too.  You could carry much more speed around the twisties,  but some of the interaction/fun has been diluted away at the same time.

ED30.  A very fast 2wd GTI.

DSG - very marmite.   personally I hate it.   I love being able to manage the car's balance/gears/weight transfer myself.   DSG for me is like playing PS3.  you loose so much of the interaction of driving.   On a Nissan GTR I drove, DSG is a must.   On a 250bhp hatchback - waste of time

 

Which one should you get?   You'll need to drive them all for yourself to make up your own mind.   They are all great cars, but they have their own pros and cons,  and therefore only you'll know which one suits your needs most.


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:59 AM

i say ed30 mate..as much as i love r32s i prefer turboed cars..and the ed30 is a an awesome car!



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Posted 01 June 2011 - 04:15 AM

 I tried an edition 30 - found the interior a bit plasticy, that goes along with the mk5 R32. The only way I would have a mk5 R is if it came with the recaros. For a GOOD condition mk5 R they are around 14-15k...almost the price of the newer S3 - which is a MUCH better car.


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 04:45 AM

Cant say i'm a fan on the interior plastics on the mk5... not as robust as the mk4s dash.


BUT... the 2.0T is a gem of an engine. [whistle]


 

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 04:47 AM

Cant say i'm a fan on the interior plastics on the mk5... not as robust as the mk4s dash.

BUT... the 2.0T is a gem of an engine. Whistle

Yup - If I had the choice between an Edition and an R32 (both mk5). It would deffinately be the edition.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 10:18 AM

I am off work tomorrow so will pay a trip to VW to see what they have availabl e for me to test drive.


Im not keen on the ED30 interior but im sure a nice re-trim could be done.


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 10:28 AM

TSL (sorry cant remember you real name) The ed30 interior is very marmite, cant say I fell in love with it instantly... Its a grower tho! [:)] What you would like about it though its its pace, seriously rapid!


 

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 02:42 PM

Im quite liking the Mk5 R32 and have seen a few nice 2007 ones for around £14k

I have been looking at the tax bands and there seems to be a few different ones.

18th Nov 2005 - 23rd March 2006 = £260 per year, 23rd March 2006 - 1st Jan 2007 = £460 per year, 1st Jan 2007 - 1st July 2007 = £445 per year, 1st July 2007 - 31st July 2008 = £460 per year.

been on my mind for few weeks, about changing to a R32..

i didnt know about the tax band  thou.. £460 a year for newish one,thats bringing on chest pains [N]

 


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 02:45 PM

Im quite liking the Mk5 R32 and have seen a few nice 2007 ones for around £14k

I have been looking at the tax bands and there seems to be a few different ones.

18th Nov 2005 - 23rd March 2006 = £260 per year, 23rd March 2006 - 1st Jan 2007 = £460 per year, 1st Jan 2007 - 1st July 2007 = £445 per year, 1st July 2007 - 31st July 2008 = £460 per year.

been on my mind for few weeks, about changing to a R32..

i didnt know about the tax band  thou.. £460 a year for newish one,thats bringing on chest pains No

 

Yeh i was looking at a few 2007 ones but to get the cheaper tax would have to go for a late 2005 or early 2006 model.


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 02:55 PM

In the same boat as TSL. The V6 sound is a MUST but performance wise, we would get more from the ed30.


Not sure what to do[*-)]


 



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Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:15 PM

Id definately go the mk5 .:R, with Recaro interior (CS type) AWESOME !!


I know the Edition will produce more power ultimately but gotta love the R [In-love]


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:29 PM

Im quite liking the Mk5 R32 and have seen a few nice 2007 ones for around £14k

I have been looking at the tax bands and there seems to be a few different ones.

18th Nov 2005 - 23rd March 2006 = £260 per year, 23rd March 2006 - 1st Jan 2007 = £460 per year, 1st Jan 2007 - 1st July 2007 = £445 per year, 1st July 2007 - 31st July 2008 = £460 per year.

been on my mind for few weeks, about changing to a R32..

i didnt know about the tax band  thou.. £460 a year for newish one,thats bringing on chest pains No

 

Yeh i was looking at a few 2007 ones but to get the cheaper tax would have to go for a late 2005 or early 2006 model.

thanks for the imfo on the taxes  [Y]

 

 

 

 


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Posted 01 June 2011 - 09:44 PM

this is something that i was thinking of recently, got a new job that might be made permanent, its not far so wont be doing many miles aswel.


but overall i think the ed30 for me, mk4 R32 is just reaching an age where i would rather look at something newer, but still have a soft spot for it. thing is with the R32's is long term they could be costly in terms of petrol/tax/insurance, where as the ed30 is a bit more affordable, all depends on your circumstance.


regardless all 3 are good choices i think because residual values will be good. 


good luck making a decision! 



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Posted 02 June 2011 - 01:54 AM

trying DSG is a must, because you might hate it!

Couldn't agree with this more - try and get an extended test drive of one from a dealer, even if it's not on a car you're considering buying.  Or consider maybe hiring one for a day and seeing how you get on with it, and try and drive it in every kind of traffic condition you can find.

I got suckerd into buying one after a short test drive which was around town and on a clear motorway.  Around town the DSG works well and on a clear motorway it's just like cruising along in any othre car. Bought the car and soon discovered I really didn't get on with it on A-roads, B-roads and busy-ish motorways.The gearbox just didn't do what you felt it should be (essentially it insisted on driving everywhere in 6th) and it becamse an utterly frustrating experience. 

I had my doubts after a couple of days and hated it by the end of that first week.  Drove the car for another week before I parked it up and advertised it for sale and it was gone within a month - total length of ownership?  31 days. 

Wouldn't touch another DSG box again after that. They're also expensive if they go wrong outside of waranty.  Some people love them though.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 02:19 AM

This is really weird as last week i was looking at mk5 R32's and ED30's as i too am thinking of a change


One of my mates has the R32 with leather recaro bucket seats in manual whilst another mate has an ED30 DSG.


I must admit i was slightly dissappointed with their interiors (as mentioned plastically). Both seem fast and handle better than the MK4 in my opinion.


It was hard to tell what car was quicker with there being soo much theatre of a reving V6 making you feel that youre going faster.


I was very impressed as to how quick the ED30 is as standard,...... inside my head i was thinking if i remapped one how awesome would it be? i stand corrected but with Lower tax band, better mpg, high torque (remapped)....the ED30 is an attractive option.


But on the otherside I prefer the look of the R32 - rear diffuser & exhaust, option of leather Recaro's bucket seats, V6 noise, DSG and that blue


 


Im still trying to decide between the 2



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Posted 02 June 2011 - 02:36 AM

trying DSG is a must, because you might hate it!

Couldn't agree with this more - try and get an extended test drive of one from a dealer, even if it's not on a car you're considering buying.  Or consider maybe hiring one for a day and seeing how you get on with it, and try and drive it in every kind of traffic condition you can find.

I got suckerd into buying one after a short test drive which was around town and on a clear motorway.  Around town the DSG works well and on a clear motorway it's just like cruising along in any othre car. Bought the car and soon discovered I really didn't get on with it on A-roads, B-roads and busy-ish motorways.The gearbox just didn't do what you felt it should be (essentially it insisted on driving everywhere in 6th) and it becamse an utterly frustrating experience. 

I had my doubts after a couple of days and hated it by the end of that first week.  Drove the car for another week before I parked it up and advertised it for sale and it was gone within a month - total length of ownership?  31 days. 

Wouldn't touch another DSG box again after that. They're also expensive if they go wrong outside of waranty.  Some people love them though.

Jon.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 02:38 AM

Did some insurance quotes last night aswell and noticed a difference as the Mk5 R32 and Ed30 both came in at about £900 and then the Mk4 R32 was about £1200


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Posted 02 June 2011 - 02:47 AM

Found this one on pistonheads last night and really love the look. Definately my favourite so far. Its a 2007 with the DSG paddle shift so will definately need to try that out, 19" RS6 alloys, miltek resonated exhaust, lowered 25mm on H&R springs and heated leather vienna bucket seats. Its a bit pricey though at £16,250.



 



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Posted 02 June 2011 - 02:49 AM

Ed30 should be a tad cheaper to buy too, lots from 11k now


Had mine a month now and loving it, petrol prices are high enough so didn't consider an R32. Try Greenlight for insurance, for some reason they were 300 quid cheaper than Flux etc for me.



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Posted 02 June 2011 - 04:01 AM

Its hard to try and find a 3 door Mk5 R32 without the DSG. Was looking at finding a lower tax one but not bothered now as i would rather find a really nice spec one and i would be willing to pay the tax each year for that.


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