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#1 Jamral

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 07:15 PM

I have a mk4 gti agu with 5 speed 02j and the shift feels horrid especially on the front to back movement. The side to side is okay but the front to back is painful especially when engaging 5th and reverse.

Is there a fix for this issue?


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Posted 16 January 2021 - 08:06 PM

Check the shifter bushings on the end links of the shifter cables , on top of the gearbox. They are made of rubber. And have probably split by now making gear selection imprecise. Replace the bushes with new , or metal inserts instead of the OEM rubber rings.

If they are fine then you may just get away with the cables needing to be reset .


Of you go onto YouTube and search for

Dieselgeek 5 speed , you can follow his tutorial to reset the cable links .

Make sure you follow dieselgeeks own video

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 08:07 PM






Watch these videos he explains how to adjust the shifter end links . Ignore the installation for his dieselgeek shifter mech.

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#4 Jamral

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 10:12 PM

Have you got a link to metal inserts just?

I was looking at the diesel geek bushes for the tower, I might get them as they seem quite good

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Posted 16 January 2021 - 10:38 PM

Have you got a link to metal inserts just?

I was looking at the diesel geek bushes for the tower, I might get them as they seem quite good


No sorry I don't. I fitted the metal bushes to mine probably 10 years ago.


Think you can search for draft42 , they were one brand that made the metal bushes

Mine were speed source or something , they are listed in my build thread somewhere .

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 05:44 PM

The full shifter bushing kit from America looks awesome but I'm feart of custom tax.


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Posted 17 January 2021 - 08:30 PM

I got this on ebay but I have no idea where anything goes...

Check it out
https://www.ebay.co....I-/233573323135

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 08:31 PM

Also I found these metal bushes these should be helpful

https://www.bar-tek-...-stabilisierung

Also is there any good short shift available?

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 08:46 PM

That looks correct - too late now, but there is an OEM upgrade for the big black / white collar, iicr Mk5

 

This link to Diesel Geeks Shop should help identify the parts:

https://www.dieselge...-gti-new-beetle

Looks like you have shifter & shift tower bushes in there too.

 

Unless it's all apart - getting to the shifter is a bit of a faf - fix everything in the bay first....

Engine mounts can also throw out the feel of gear change too.

 

 

The full shifter bushing kit from America looks awesome but I'm feart of custom tax.

At least we know it's going to definitely cost from our old colony.

I'm more fearful of the cost lottery of getting stuff here from Europe!



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Posted 17 January 2021 - 09:06 PM

That looks correct - too late now, but there is an OEM upgrade for the big black / white collar, iicr Mk5

 

At least we know it's going to definitely cost from our old colony.

I'm more fearful of the cost lottery of getting stuff here from Europe!

 

I did the MK5 one.  Made no difference IMO.  But I don't have the softest of hands and generally am quite ham fisted.

 

Also this.  Turns out we don't pay VAT.  Can't believe people voted for it though. :( 


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Posted 17 January 2021 - 09:12 PM

I think I'll just replace everything on top of the gearbox see how that goes, the tower itself seems like a pain to get at so I'll leave that to the very last and hopefully new cable ends and bushes tighten things up.

I'm from ireland and buying car parts for mk4 from uk was always great so much options but the import charges have made it expensive sadly

Especially as everything seemed so much cheaper even after shipping costs. 23% vat on everything

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 09:13 PM

I got this on ebay but I have no idea where anything goes...

Check it out
https://www.ebay.co....I-/233573323135


All that stuff is for underneath the gear stick.

The big white and black thing is what holds the gearstick. I changed my one in my R32 as it was only 85p or something from VW. But it made no difference at all. Complete waste of time but not money.

The other bits are the pivots for the levers and stuff. Some are harder to fit than others. Check out dieselgeek website. He had a load of videos which show how to fit these as he sells upgraded versions on his website.

Also humble mechanic on YouTube has done a video I believe fitting these parts too if I'm not wrong.

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 09:16 PM

Also I found these metal bushes these should be helpful

https://www.bar-tek-...-stabilisierung

Also is there any good short shift available?


Yes those are the metal bush end links I was talking about.

Before you go buying them. Have you checked to see if your current ones are all split to pieces? Cause if they are then buy these.


Same applies for the other kit you've listed for the tower bushes... There's a bit of faff trying to fit these, so if they aren't broke then don't bother just yet

First see if you can reset the linkages to fix the accuracy of the shift before buying upgrade parts!
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Posted 18 January 2021 - 03:24 PM

i agree with the above, try to reset the linkage first before buying stuff, and also replace the gearbox oil... those are the 2 easiest and cheapest options to look at before buying parts. 







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