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#1 tyrannosauRoss

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:05 PM

There's a car I'm interested but going to do a fresh insurance quote today I noticed it was coming up as a standard 1.8. Not the 1.8T as advertised.


83600 mentions it as Golf Gti 1.8


gocompare listed it as 1.8 GTI 125bhp


autotrader checker lists it as GT TDI.


Is there a deffinitive way to tell? Email the seller and ask is the obvious one, but what can I ask to make sure he isn't lying?




#2 callum_tdi

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:08 PM

picture of the engine bay ull have a nice ally inlet across front


have u got a link to ad


power should state 150 bhp


 



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:16 PM

http://www.ebay.co.u...#ht_1184wt_1396

 

Yup, I know there's damage, got a quote for that, and that there's not sun roof! [:P]



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:24 PM

Ask for Engine shots if it has the pipe across the front then it's a T.

The seats look lush

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUaaW81Ls4-pzqluc7LZOhjQ79QMJBiLEaHHEET6AJPwFkqtcgjHQlPVyV credit to whoever it is off here who it belongs to (google found me image)


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wow. such race-car ^^ very click ^^  so diesel much mpg  


#5 tyrannosauRoss

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:29 PM

How bad is the 1.8 non turbo in comparison?


It's basically the spec of a car I want;


heated leather, climate control, and size of car.



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

tereble lol dont bother


ull get board of the 125bhp and wont be able to do any thing with it



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:33 PM

If that's the spec you want & similar power then get a V5,heated leather,climate
control,sounds good too.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:34 PM

It's a 02 reg, therefore it can't be a non-turbo 1.8. I checked that reg on the My Car Check iPhone app, and it comes up as a 1.8 petrol, therefore it's at least 150bhp petrol turbo. 



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:35 PM

but there is a 1.8 non turbo petrol gti



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:38 PM

Not in 2002.



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:39 PM

I've sent an email asking for shots. Used a different email to the one from before since I've been in quite a bit of contact with him =P



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:39 PM

1.8t had wooden trim, and its not a diesel because if you look closely at the interior shots the clocks are higher revving than a diesel looking at the scale of 1,000-3,000 rpm..



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:40 PM

He's saying they stopped making the AGN engine in 200 or 2001 was it? can't remember but be doubley sure, get an engine shot. I've seen a 09 plate poojoe 206 driving around when they were supposed to go out of production in 06/07!!! So get an engine shot to be sure it's not a late-reg...


30076295763_fc662d2913_o_d.jpg

wow. such race-car ^^ very click ^^  so diesel much mpg  


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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:43 PM

oh ok didnt see that lol doe in that case if they stopped making it then its gotta be a T



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:43 PM

Well DVLA was saying it's defo petrol. Maybe some of the confusion is due to the tax bunning out/being sorn.


I know with some insurance companies they don't reconise reg plates if this is the case.



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

do the 1.8t come with sport clocks? with the silver rings



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:45 PM

No. Only Bora's and anniversarys do.



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:50 PM

ah ok didnt know that



#19 tyrannosauRoss

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:53 AM

Useless sod, got a reply:


hi cars away getting at min but some dvla checks do but it is a gti and try car check text 83600 and reg and its on there ok thanks


 


Parker also lists the standard 1.8 ending production in 1999. What are the chances the car stood around till the registration date of 12/04/2002?



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:57 AM

 DVLA are useless anyway. When I registered the new engine in my 4motion Golf I sent of the engine number and all the details of the car the engine came out of (Audi S3 1.8t) etc...and they then put it down as a 125hp 4motion 1.8 NA... idiots...


 



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:59 AM

way to go about customer services, i just wouldnt buy it because of that lol



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:03 AM

according to the dvla tax checker thing its a petrol and the tax is £245 the same as my 1.8t, im guessing the 1,8 non turbo isnt as much



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:13 AM

PM me the reg and I'll show you results from HPI & DVLA



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:18 AM

PM me the reg and I'll show you results from HPI & DVLA

 

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:22 AM



 




 DVLA are useless anyway. When I registered the new engine in my 4motion Golf I sent of the engine number and all the details of the car the engine came out of (Audi S3 1.8t) etc...and they then put it down as a 125hp 4motion 1.8 NA... idiots...

 

Yeah, well DVLA website just lists the engine as the 1798cc or whatever it is.

 

 

 

way to go about customer services, i just wouldnt buy it because of that lol

 

Theirs almost like two poeple reply. One that answers in confusing text like speak, an other guy that answers more coherently.

 

 

according to the dvla tax checker thing its a petrol and the tax is £245 the same as my 1.8t, im guessing the 1,8 non turbo isnt as much

I didn't think of doing it that way, parkers is being it's usual self and absolutely useless.

 

PM me the reg and I'll show you results from HPI & DVLA

And finally....

 

Two seconds and it'll be done.



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:44 AM

Using the reg number to obtain the chassis number you get this


WVWZZZ1JZZB114712


 


BUT it does not show on the ETKA (VW database) as being a valid chassis number so it COULD be an import but cant see what the chassis number does not show regardless if it was an import or not [8-)]


so i would say something is not quite right somewhere


this is the data from a VRN check














































































































Make:   VOLKSWAGEN 
Model: GOLF GT TDI 
DateOfTransaction: 20020509 
VinConfirmationFlag: False 
EngineCapacity: 01781 
DoorPlan: 13 
DateFirstRegistered: 20020412 
YearOfManufacture: 2002 
Scrapped: False 
Exported: False 
Imported: False 
Colour: SILVER 
Transmission: UNKNOWN 
EngineNumber: NOT KNOWN 
VinSerialNumber: WVWZZZ1JZZB114712 
DoorPlanLiteral: 3 DOOR HATCHBACK 
MVRISMakeCode: * 
MVRISModelCode: * 
DTPMakeCode: M7 
DTPModelCode: 744 
TransmissionCode: * 
Gears: * 
Fuel: UNKNOWN 
CO2Emissions: 190 
UsedBeforeFirstReg: False 
ImportNonEu: False 

 


 


EDIT if i change the 2nd Z in the chassis number to a 2 so it would read WVWZZZ1JZ2B114712


 


The it shows up on ETKA as a 1.8TURBO AUM with a gearbox code of EVS date of manufacture 12.02.2002


 


Hope that helps and think it is just a SPELLING MISTAKE through the DVLA system but would double check that to be 100% sure


 


 


 



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:58 AM

Before reading all these replies i did a check aswell and i just got 1.8 NON turbo but id just gets pics of the engine bay or just leave well alone.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:02 AM

 It's a NON turbo, checked on my vw system at work, its a 110bhp, engine number unknown. That's what my system says on it.



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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:04 AM

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:08 AM

 It's a NON turbo, checked on my vw system at work, its a 110bhp, engine number unknown. That's what my system says on it.

there isnt a 110bhp petrol mk4 and the 110bhp diesel does have a turbo so dont think thats quite right.

OP, cant you get this seller to send you pics of engine code when he has car back?







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